Was Elizabeth married before?

[Katarzyna]

I am unable to find a marriage between Christopher Sykes bap 1826 Chapel Allerton, Leeds and Elizabeth b c 1834 Leeds.

On 1861 census RG 9; Piece: 3399; Folio: 115; Page: 22
Christopher Sykes 35
Elizabeth Sykes 28
Sarah E Sykes 1
Thomas Bradley 16 Brother in Law b Leeds.

I assumed this would be Elizabeth's brother but cannot find a Sykes/Bradley marriage.
Can anyone find a marriage for Christopher or another previous marriage for Elizabeth?

Thank you

[Darksecretz]

hmmn I have found him I think in 1851 lodging but married in leeds..

do you know what Christophers fathers name was... thomas maybe?

[Darksecretz]

hmmn I have found him I think in 1851 lodging but married in leeds..

do you know what Christophers fathers name was... thomas maybe?

nope scratch that I see his fathers name was Bernard.. poooooooooooo

[Katarzyna]

His father was Bernard , mother Sarah Julie.

[Katarzyna]

Silly me , not noticed he was married in 1851 census. Been looking for marriages closer to his first child's birth in 1860

[Darksecretz]

Silly me , not noticed he was married in 1851 census. Been looking for marriages closer to his first child's birth in 1860

so you think that the 1851 where he is lodging with the Belcher family is him?

[Darksecretz]

not having much luck at all Kat.. I don't suppose you have the daughters b/cert to confirm any previous names

[Darksecretz]

the only thing I have found is this:

Name: Christopher Sykes
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1859
Registration District: Pontefract
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 69

Eliza Appleyard
or
Hannah Taylor

[vera2013]

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2253/32355_249418-00760/19402280?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dWYorkCoEMarriage%26h%3d19402280%26indiv%3dtry%26o_vc%3dRecord%253aOtherRecord%26rhSource%3d8860&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

This could be him with first and maybe only wife

Married 06/07/1848 Leeds St Peter

Christopher Sykes full age widower shopkeeper f Barnard, servant
Louisa Hobson full age spinster f John, Mason
living Woodhouse Street

Witnesses George Smith and Edwin Moore

That Louisa is in all the census following as a married women with a child Walter Chapman Sykes and later a child Louisa. She continues to live with her parents and later with a lodger.

Vera

[Darksecretz]

not having much luck at all Kat.. I don't suppose you have the daughters b/cert to confirm any previous names

Can't see a birth reg but found a bapt:

Name: Sarah Elizabeth Sykes
Birth Date: 24 May 1859
Parish: Woodhouse, St Mark
Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1868
Father's Name: Christopher Sykes [occ dyer]
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Sykes

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=wyorkcoebaptism&rank=1&new=1&ssrc=pt_t51124177_p26074879748&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsfn=sar*+e&gsln=syk**&msbdy=1860&msbpn__ftp=Yorkshire%2c+England&msbpn=5292&msbpn_PInfo=7-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5292%7c0%7c0%7c&cpxt=1&catBucket=rstp&uidh=lg3&msbdp=2&cp=11&pcat=BMD_BIRTH&fh=34&h=4797700&recoff=9+11+35+47&ml_rpos=35

[Darksecretz]

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/22...l=ReturnRecord

This could be him with first and maybe only wife

Married 06/07/1848 Leeds St Peter

Christopher Sykes full age widower shopkeeper f Barnard, servant
Louisa Hobson full age spinster f John, Mason
living Woodhouse Street

Witnesses George Smith and Edwin Moore

That Louisa is in all the census following as a married women with a child Walter Chapman Sykes and later a child Louisa. She continues to live with her parents and later with a lodger.

Vera

oh SPOT ON Vera!! well done! that would certainly explain the lack of a marriage to Elizabeth

[Guest]

there is a marriage in Dec 1844 Bradford Yorkshire 23 220 between a Christopher Sykes and an Elizabeth Wheelhouse?

[Darksecretz]

now, he states he is a WIDOWER on that marriage, so do we need yet another marriage and death for wife no 1?

[vera2013]

Tried to edit to say maybe 2nd and only but can't seem to edit at the moment.

Vera

[Darksecretz]

Tried to edit to say maybe 2nd and only but can't seem to edit at the moment.

Vera

you only have a 10 minute window from first posting to be able to edit Vera:

http://www.familytreeforum.com/announcement.php?f=2

[vera2013]

Thanks. Will remember that

Vera

[Darksecretz]

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910

Name: Walter Chapman Sykes
Birth Date: 27 Apr 1859
Parish: Leeds, St Peter
Baptism Date: 15 May 1859
Father's Name: Sykes
Mother's Name: Louisa

it doesn't ask for fathers name.. just 'parents' and it says Louisa and then Sykes in the surname bit.... but it states that she is a SPINSTER.. poor soul died at the age of 28 too.. :(

[Katarzyna]

Sorry - on call.
He is with Elizabeth on all censuses except that 1851. Dyer
1861 journeyman dyer
RG 9; Piece: 3399; Folio: 115; Page: 22
1871 french polisher
RG10; Piece: 4542; Folio: 33; Page: 20
1881 dyer
RG11; Piece: 4510; Folio: 93; Page: 19
1891 cloth dyer and Elizabeth - french polisher
RG12; Piece: 3683; Folio: 4; Page: 2

[Katarzyna]

My you have been busy. ..and what another naughty boy I seem to have in this family!!
So 2nd Marriage:
Married 06/07/1848 Leeds St Peter
Christopher Sykes full age widower shopkeeper f Barnard, servant
Louisa Hobson full age spinster f John, Mason
living Woodhouse Street
So he would have been age 22

Maybe didn't marry Elizabeth then. Poor Louisa.
The 1844 marriage -is a possibilty - he would have been 18 - . My Elizabeth would only be 10 so not her.
Need a death for that Eliza Sykes - if it is her.

[Katarzyna]

Edit for last posting. Need a death for Elizabeth Sykes before 1848 not Eliza.