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  • Shadrach Mishach Abadnego Wismer (love his name) - where is he in Canada census?

    According to familysearch.org, he was born 29 Aug 1879 in Hay township, Huron, Ontario, son of Levi Wismer & his wife Mary Jane, nee Brod(e)rick. (They married in August 1871.)

    I can't find the family in any Canadian census :(

    Siblings of SMAW included Emmarilla (born 1875) and Isaiah born 1882. Their names are rather unusual, to put it mildly, but that probably makes them very liable to mistranscription.
    Can anyone find them please?

    I don't have Ancestry worldwide, but can access census images via the Library & Archives Canada, if I know what the mistranscriptions are. Or if I have the place names, I can look first in familysearch and then follow up on L & A Canada.

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

  • #2
    Sorry folks, but I'm nodding off on the chair here and will have to give in and go to bed.
    Will be back later in the day.
    Thanks for looking.

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    • #3
      1906 Manitoba census

      Occupation - Hired man

      WWI Draft reg in St Paul, Minnesota, DOB 29 1879, Occ Machinist. Nearest Relative Francis Wismer, same address It states he's citizen's by father's naturalization before reaching majority

      Border Crossing - Jul 1919 S M A Wismer, born Huron, USA Citizen, occ. Farmer, last perm residence St Paul, object in coming to Canada - to go to work on a farm. Ever lived in Canada - yes, L*, SK (sorry, can't read it)

      Border crossing in 1916, Shadrach & Frances. Relationship not stated, but they appear one line after the other, and they are each married.

      There's a family tree that his place of death in SK, but no DOD. Tree says that Frances & Shadrach had multiple children, no dates, only two names - Earl & Florina. Oh, another family tree has pictures of the two of them. Francis (i vs e - it goes back and forth) maiden name was Maddams.

      Oh, the one with the photo has the scoop: died in Lampman, SK in 1961 Supposedly he arrived in Emerson, Manitoba in 1919. This tree has three children. Didn't find him in the 1921 census, tho.
      Last edited by PhotoFamily; 02-12-13, 03:54.

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      • #4
        Had me going there Jay. Remember my dad singing SMA but Louis Armstrong's version was better! see youtube.

        Web: Manitoba, Marriage Index, 1879-1931
        Name: Shadrack Wismer
        Gender: Male
        Spouse: Frances K Maddams
        Marriage Date: 11 oct. 1916
        Marriage Place: Portage LA Prairie, Manitoba, Canada

        Last edited by Katarzyna; 02-12-13, 08:29.
        Kat

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        • #5
          Thanks both - I'll follow up your leads.
          Really grateful for the trail to Minnesota & a USA connection.

          I've viewed the u tube clip - when I was a child at school and the story of S M & A came up in R K lessons, I recall some parent egging us on that it was:
          "You shake, me shake and to bed we go."

          Jay
          Janet in Yorkshire



          Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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          • #6
            Name: Shadrach M Wismer
            Residence Year: 1919
            Street Address: 128 Granite
            Residence Place: St Paul, Minnesota
            Occupation: Machinist (Hackney Manufacturing Co)
            Publication Title: St Paul, Minnesota, City Directory, 1919


            Name: Shadrack M Wismer
            Residence Year: 1918
            Street Address: 128 Granite
            Residence Place: St Paul, Minnesota
            Occupation: MacHinist
            Publication Title: St Paul, Minnesota, City Directory, 1918

            Samuel M hlpr 128 Granite

            Also Mary J (widow Levi) address 134 E Rose St Paul


            Name: Mary J Wismer (Widow)
            Gender: Female
            Residence Year: 1916
            Street Address: 134 E Rose
            Residence Place: St Paul, Minnesota
            Spouse: Levi L Wismer
            Publication Title: St Paul, Minnesota, City Directory, 1916
            Last edited by Katarzyna; 02-12-13, 08:59.
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            • #7
              Name: Levi Wismer
              [Levi Weamer]
              Age in 1910: 69
              Birth Year: abt 1841
              Birthplace: Canada
              [Canada English]
              Home in 1910: Bad Axe Ward 1, Huron, Michigan
              Race: White
              Gender: Male
              Immigration Year: 1890
              Relation to Head of House: Head
              Marital Status: Married
              Spouse's Name: Mary J Wismer
              Father's Birthplace: Canada
              [Canada English]
              Mother's Birthplace: Canada
              [Canada English]

              Levi Wismer 69
              Mary J Wismer 59
              William Wismer 36
              Last edited by Katarzyna; 02-12-13, 09:02.
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              • #8
                Name: Mary Jane Wismer
                Age: 49
                Birth Date: Aug 1850
                Birthplace: Canada
                [Canada English]
                Home in 1900: Bloomfield, Huron, Michigan
                Race: White
                Gender: Female
                Immigration Year: 1890
                Relation to Head of House: Wife
                Marital Status: Married
                Spouse's Name: Levi Wismer
                Marriage Year: 1872
                Years Married: 28
                Father's Birthplace: England
                Mother's Birthplace: England
                Mother: number of living children: 6
                Mother: How many children: 10

                Levi Wismer 59 Occ Farmer
                Mary Jane Wismer 49
                William Jacob Wismer 25
                Catherine Wismer 14
                Kat

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                • #9
                  Oh, Wow, Kat - thanks for all that information.

                  Jay
                  Janet in Yorkshire



                  Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                  • #10
                    Name: Levi Wismer
                    Birth Place: Waterloo County, Ontario
                    Age: 30
                    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
                    Father Name: Jacob Wismer
                    Mother Name: Susanna Wismer
                    Spouse Name: Mary Jane Broderick
                    Spouse's Age: 20
                    Spouse Birth Year: abt 1851
                    Spouse Birth Place: Oxford Co Ont
                    Spouse Father Name: William Broderick
                    Spouse Mother Name: Elezabeth Broderick
                    Marriage Date: 8 Aug 1871
                    Marriage County or District: Huron
                    Kat

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                    • #11
                      1851 census
                      Levi Wismer
                      Age: 11
                      abt 1841
                      Birthplace: Canada
                      Province: Canada West (Ontario)
                      District: Waterloo County
                      District Number: 38
                      Sub-District: Dumfries North
                      Sub-District Number: 359

                      Also on the image:
                      Jacob 55 b looks like Pen. U.S 0cc labourer
                      Susannah 43 ditto
                      Catherine 13 Canadian
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                      • #12
                        Name: Levi Wismer
                        Birth Date: 1840
                        Age at Death: 73
                        Death Date: 1913
                        Burial Place: Verona (Huron County), Huron County, Michigan, USA

                        Maybe Levi? from findagrave.com

                        Saskatchewan, Canada, Residents Index (SRI), 1800-2012

                        Name: Florina Wismer
                        Residence Date: 1939
                        Residence Place: Lampman, Saskatchewan, Canada
                        Description: list of names

                        That's all the information given. No image


                        Minnesota, Births and Christenings Index, 1840-1980
                        Name: Earl Burgess Wismer
                        Birth Date: 2 May 1919
                        Birth Place: St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota
                        Father's Name: Shadrack Wismer
                        Mother's Name: Francis
                        FHL Film Number: 1309120
                        Kat

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                        • #13
                          Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2002
                          Name: Earl B. Wismer
                          Birth Date: 2 May 1919
                          Death Date: 7 Sep 1968
                          Death County: Ramsey
                          Mother's Maiden Name: Madams
                          State File Number: 024429
                          Certificate Number: 024429
                          Certificate Year: 1968
                          Record Number: 1717254

                          Minnesota, Births and Christenings Index, 1840-1980
                          Name: Harriet Jane Wismer
                          Birth Date: 20 Oct 1917
                          Birth Place: St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota
                          Father's Name: Shadrack Wismer
                          Mother's Name: Frnces Maddams
                          FHL Film Number: 1309120
                          Last edited by Katarzyna; 02-12-13, 12:01.
                          Kat

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                          • #14
                            Let us know if you want anything else looking up.
                            I can't find them on 1921 census either.
                            Kat

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                            • #15
                              Couldn't leave it alone!
                              Found 1921 Canada Census


                              Name: Harriett Shadrah
                              Gender: Female
                              Marital Status: Single
                              Age: 3
                              Birth Year: abt 1918
                              Birth Place: St Paul Miss USA
                              Relation to Head of House: Daughter
                              Father's Name: Wesmer Shadrah
                              Father Birth Place: Canada
                              Mother's Name: Francis Shadrah
                              Mother Birth Place: England
                              Year of Immigration: 1919
                              Racial or Tribal Origin: Dutch
                              Province or Territory: Manitoba
                              District: Portage-La-Prairie
                              District Number: 33
                              Sub-District: Portage La Prairie (City)
                              Sub-District Number: 20
                              City, Town or Village: Portage la Prairie
                              Section Number: 42 10th St
                              Range Number: 10th
                              Municipality: Ward 1

                              Wesmer Shadrah 40 b Ontario, Canada, Carpenter, Father Birth Place: Dutch Penn
                              Francis Shadrah 25 b England, Year of Immigration to Canada:1914
                              Harriett Shadrah 3 St Paul Minn USA Year of Immigration to Canada:1919
                              Earl Shadrah 2 ditto




                              RG 31; Folder Number: 25; Census Place: Portage La Prairie (City), Portage-La-Prairie, Manitoba; Page Number: 29.
                              Last edited by Katarzyna; 02-12-13, 12:45.
                              Kat

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                              • #16
                                Thanks again Kat - there's enough there to keep me busy for a little while!!

                                It's actually Mary Jane Brod(e)rick (Mrs Levi Wismer) that is the blood link, through her maternal line, and then Mary Jane's children.

                                I don't have Mary Jane in either 1861 or 1871, nor do I have a birth/bp record.
                                Born c 1849, in 1851 she was recorded in Blenheim, Oxford County, Canada West, and was to be 2 at her next birthday. She was with her maternal grandmother Mary Hipkins and her second husband John Hipkins, both born Norfolk England. Mary's younger daughter Elizabeth (child of the first marriage) married William Brodrick 15 Feb 1848 (familysearch) and the eldest Wismer boy was William Jacob, the forenames of the fathers of both Mary Jane & Levi. (Bit of a dodgy link I know, which is why I'm poking about at both ends of the scenario, as it were.)

                                Jay
                                Last edited by Janet in Yorkshire; 02-12-13, 14:19.
                                Janet in Yorkshire



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                                • #17
                                  Will have a look later Jay - unless someone else can find them. Must get on - get dressed would be a good idea!
                                  Kat

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                                  • #18
                                    HURRAY - have now found the Michigan death registration for Mary Jane Wismer which records date of death as 28 Aug 1920 (family search.) The record also names her parents, confirming that she was indeed the daughter of "my " Elizabeth.

                                    There are lots of trees on Ancestry for Levi Wismer & Mary Jane Broderick, nearly all giving the same name for the mother of Mary Jane - Elizabeth Bauman. That wasn't the surname I had and they also had a Canadian bp for this mother, whereas I believed she had been born in England.
                                    Sometimes you can begin to doubt yourself when it seems that you "stand alone." So I am SO happy to have come across that death registration which confirms my theory. ;DSorry Ancestry tree holders, but I think you've got it wrong.

                                    jay
                                    Janet in Yorkshire



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                                    • #19
                                      "Ontario, Marriages, 1800-1910"
                                      Name: William Brodrick

                                      Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Dodman

                                      Event Date: 15 Feb 1848
                                      Event Place: , Brock District, Ontario
                                      :
                                      Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M58499-1
                                      System Origin: Ontario-ODM
                                      GS Film number: 1030051
                                      Reference ID:
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                                      • #20
                                        Do you have this census?

                                        Name: Mary Jane Wismer
                                        Age: 69
                                        Birth Year: abt 1851
                                        Birthplace: Canada
                                        Home in 1920: Verona, Huron, Michigan
                                        Race: White
                                        Gender: Female
                                        Immigration Year: 1890
                                        Relation to Head of House: Mother
                                        Marital Status: Widowed
                                        [Married]
                                        Father's Birthplace: England
                                        Mother's Birthplace: England
                                        Able to read: Yes
                                        Able to Write: Yes



                                        William Wismer 45
                                        Mary A Wismer 30
                                        William E Wismer 6
                                        Elizabeth Wismer 5
                                        James L Wismer 1
                                        Mary Jane Wismer 69




                                        Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Verona, Huron, Michigan; Roll: T625_770; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 29; Image: 653.
                                        Last edited by Katarzyna; 02-12-13, 17:04.
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