i'm trying to track down john william ambler and having no luck.
john william ambler b.27 jun 1839, ch.27 sep 1839, st peter leeds. son of lawrence ambler (b.1812) and dorothy halliwell (c.1812-1848).
i have him in 1841, leeds with parents and elder sister elizabeth (1833-1898).
dorothy dies in 1848, lawrence is informant. this is my last sighting of father lawrence.
1851, leeds in the workhouse school for pauper children with younger siblings thomas (b.1844) and annie (b.1842), neither of which i can trace after this census mind you.
next sighting is in pancras, 18 jul 1869, marrying elizabeth anne shirley.
john william ambler- full age. bachelor. shoemaker of york buildings. father-lawrence ambler, carpenter.
elizabeth anne shirley- minor, spinster. of york buildings. father- william shirley, deceased shoemaker.
wittnesses: samuel and sarah drabble. (elizabeth's mum and step father)
in 1871, at the old artillery ground in london. reg district given as whitechapel.
john ambler- 31, b.1840, leeds. occupation cordwainer.
elizabeth- 20, b.1850, woolwich, kent. wife.
annie- 3mths, b.1871, whitechapel, london.
after this i am less sure of his movements. possible 1881 st james, london:
john ambler- 41, b.1840 leeds. cordwainer.
frances- 39, b.1842, middlesex. wife.
james lewis- 13, b.1868 holborn. errand boy, step son.
i think he returned to leeds after this, (see *** below) as i cannot locate him or frances after that census. and there is this:
ch. 1 apr 1888, st george leeds. dorothy ellen, dau of john william ambler and mary jane. father a shoe maker. i found dorothy ellen in the 1891 census in leeds with widowed mother mary jane. and an elder brother enumerated as 'william jane' ambler. though i cannot find any more baptisms for this couple, and looking for the wife in the previous census i can only spot one with husband samuel ambler?
there is a death in 1890 leeds for a john william ambler age 48. which seems to tie in with dorothy ellen's family.
***i think john returned to leeds, as i found his daughter annie there.
1871- she is at the artillery in london with parents.
1881- london with grandfather samuel drabble.
1891- servant in arthington near leeds.
3 feb 1896, st luke holbeck, yorks. annie ambler daughter of john william ambler a shoe maker, married james william burton (barton on ancestry).
they are in london in 1901 and then willesden in 1911, with a whole host of kids that don't tally with their census returns!
can anyone find john cnclusively after 1871? or maybe disprove the child dorothy ellen as his?
john william ambler b.27 jun 1839, ch.27 sep 1839, st peter leeds. son of lawrence ambler (b.1812) and dorothy halliwell (c.1812-1848).
i have him in 1841, leeds with parents and elder sister elizabeth (1833-1898).
dorothy dies in 1848, lawrence is informant. this is my last sighting of father lawrence.
1851, leeds in the workhouse school for pauper children with younger siblings thomas (b.1844) and annie (b.1842), neither of which i can trace after this census mind you.
next sighting is in pancras, 18 jul 1869, marrying elizabeth anne shirley.
john william ambler- full age. bachelor. shoemaker of york buildings. father-lawrence ambler, carpenter.
elizabeth anne shirley- minor, spinster. of york buildings. father- william shirley, deceased shoemaker.
wittnesses: samuel and sarah drabble. (elizabeth's mum and step father)
in 1871, at the old artillery ground in london. reg district given as whitechapel.
john ambler- 31, b.1840, leeds. occupation cordwainer.
elizabeth- 20, b.1850, woolwich, kent. wife.
annie- 3mths, b.1871, whitechapel, london.
after this i am less sure of his movements. possible 1881 st james, london:
john ambler- 41, b.1840 leeds. cordwainer.
frances- 39, b.1842, middlesex. wife.
james lewis- 13, b.1868 holborn. errand boy, step son.
i think he returned to leeds after this, (see *** below) as i cannot locate him or frances after that census. and there is this:
ch. 1 apr 1888, st george leeds. dorothy ellen, dau of john william ambler and mary jane. father a shoe maker. i found dorothy ellen in the 1891 census in leeds with widowed mother mary jane. and an elder brother enumerated as 'william jane' ambler. though i cannot find any more baptisms for this couple, and looking for the wife in the previous census i can only spot one with husband samuel ambler?
there is a death in 1890 leeds for a john william ambler age 48. which seems to tie in with dorothy ellen's family.
***i think john returned to leeds, as i found his daughter annie there.
1871- she is at the artillery in london with parents.
1881- london with grandfather samuel drabble.
1891- servant in arthington near leeds.
3 feb 1896, st luke holbeck, yorks. annie ambler daughter of john william ambler a shoe maker, married james william burton (barton on ancestry).
they are in london in 1901 and then willesden in 1911, with a whole host of kids that don't tally with their census returns!
can anyone find john cnclusively after 1871? or maybe disprove the child dorothy ellen as his?
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