Leonard BENNETT - evading the Canadian 1921 census?

[Christine in Herts]

I've had quite a look myself on the Ancestry.ca Canadian 1921 census pages (http://www.ancestry.ca/1921census), which are now indexed (though of typically suspect quality - only a few of the mistranscriptions I have spotted seemed to have much of an excuse, I thought) but I have completely failed to find Leonard BENNETT, who should be in Toronto.

Relevant information - which is best not entered all at once!
Leonard BENNETT, later signing as "Leo"
b 6 March 1887 (though a bit inclined to opt for other years: 1884, 1893, 1903)
b in England -as were both his parents
occupation... probably a salesman / shop assistant, or clerk, but could be something with more mechanical - a tramdriver, say
should be a "boarder"
should be at 199 Woburn av in Toronto, Ontario
probably Methodist, or even Baptist, rather than C of E

Part of my problem is that I haven't managed to suss out where to look for Woburn Avenue.

I'm not asking for anyone to do my hunting for me, but just to let me know if you spot him - or if you spot Woburn Avenue - in your own searches. Because I've found some quite extreme mistranscriptions, it's very possible that he could turn up with some quite garbled name when you're looking for someone else.

thanks!
Christine

[Guest]

there is a Leonard Bennett here but its very hard to read

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8991/1921_066-e002935555/840660?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fnew%3d1%26gsfn%3dleonard%26gsln%3dbennett%26rank%3d1%26gss%3dangs-g%26mswpn__ftp%3dToronto%252c%2bToronto%252c%2bOntario%252c%2bCanada%26mswpn%3d1649872%26mswpn_PInfo%3d8-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c3243%257c0%257c5007%257c0%257c1654339%257c1649872%257c0%257c%26msbdy%3d1887%26sbo%3d1%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26h%3d840660%26db%3dCanCen1921%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d8&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

[Guest]

oops just noticed it says born there

[Guest]

what about this one a Printer?

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8991/1921_004-e002856734/6612375?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fnew%3d1%26gsfn%3dleonard%26gsln%3dbennett%26rank%3d1%26gss%3dangs-c%26mswpn__ftp%3dToronto%252c%2bToronto%252c%2bOntario%252c%2bCanada%26mswpn%3d1649872%26mswpn_PInfo%3d8-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c3243%257c0%257c5007%257c0%257c1654339%257c1649872%257c0%257c%26msbdy%3d1887%26sbo%3d1%26pcat%3dCEN_1920%26h%3d6612375%26db%3dCanCen1921%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d6&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

[susan h]

Christine, I've found 199 Woburn Ave, but a family named Choste are living there.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=1&gsfn=richard&gsln=choste&sx=&f3=Ontario&f4=&f5=&f8=&f24=&f25=woburn+ave&f15=&rg_81004011__date=&rs_81004011__date=0&f17=&f20=&f26=&rg_f14__date=&rs_f14__date=0&_8000C002=&f21=&_80008002=&f22=&_80018002=&gskw=&prox=1&db=cancen1921&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=2919041&recoff=&ml_rpos=1

[ozgirl]

According to the Toronto directory of 1921 he is still boarding at 199 Woburn, and is a salesman for The Bennett Letterhouse

https://archive.org/stream/torontodi...e/567/mode/1up

[ozgirl]

in the 1922 directory, he is rooming at 144 Craighurst Ave
https://archive.org/stream/torontodi...e/658/mode/1up

but is not there in the census

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/content...=Clara+Andrews

[ozgirl]

There's this one - born 1893, but supposedly in Ontario, works in a garage, with wife Mary

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=2291827

[Christine in Herts]

Many thanks for everyone's efforts. Whenever I click on the inks, my .co.uk membership doesn't seem to be adequate. I know that I can get at the census images for free if I go from .ca

Could you give me the info to locate from the .ca site?

Thank you for the Directory info - it was based on that that I was sunder the impression he should be at 199 Woburn Av. Really disappointing/confusing to find that he wasn't here!

I have a whole Excel spreadsheet with date-headed columns matching up the various pieces of info that I have for Leonard. That's what makes me reasonably confident that, even where aspects of info he gave about himself may not tie in with official records, I really have traced the same man all the way through.

LKB	Evidence Date	info supplier
B-cert	15 Apr 1887	HB
Bap Regr	10 Mar 1887	GB/HB
UK census	5/6 Apr 1891	GB
UK census	31 Mar / 1 Apr 1901	HB
UK census	2/3 Apr 1911	?LB
M-cert	07-Nov-11	LB
GLJB B-cert	29-Sep-12	AB
SGB B-cert	04-Oct-15	AB
	May-16	UK military conscription extended to married men
S S Metagama	1916	claimed to have sailed: not found as passenger or crew
Toronto City Directory	1916	?wrong one: a clerk at 15 Beatrice
Toronto City Directory	1917-1919	not found
T Eaton Golden Jubilee bk	1919	not found
Toronto City Directory	1920	LB
Canada census	1 Jun 1921
Toronto (Might) City Directory	1921	LB
Toronto (Might) City Directory	1922	LB
manifest	1924	LB
Primary Inspn Memo	19-Mar-24	LB
Declaration of Intention	26-Mar-24	LB
Detroit City Directory	1928-29	LKB
M-record	Mar-30	not found (shld b, per 1930 census)
US census	01-Apr-30	LKB
Detroit City Directory	1931	LKB
Detroit City Directory	1932	LKB
RoyalOak City Directory	1933	LKB
Cert of Arrival	16-May-34	LKB
Detroit City Directory	1934	LKB
Detroit City Directory	1934	LKB
Detroit or other City Directory	1935	N/A
Detroit or other City Directory	1936	N/A
SS5	01-Dec-36	LKB
Detroit or other City Directory	1937	N/A
TN marriages "Don't Publish"	03-Jul-37	LKB
M-License & Bond &c	25-Nov-37	LKB
Detroit City Directory	1939	LKB
Naturalizn #s 125425 & 315378	01-Jun-39	LKB
Oath of Allegiance	09-Oct-39	LKB
MI Driving License
Detroit or other City Directory	1940	N/A
US 1940 census	20-Apr-40	LKB
Detroit or other City Directory	1941	N/A
SGB ~ JMB M-cert	25-Oct-41	SGB
Detroit or other City Directory	1942	N/A
LKB Draft card DSS Form1	27-Apr-42	LKB
Detroit or other City Directory	1943	N/A
Detroit or other City Directory	1944	N/A
RoyalOak City Directory	1945	LKB
Detroit or other City Directory	1946	N/A
Detroit or other City Directory	1947	N/A
Detroit or other City Directory	1948	N/A
Detroit or other City Directory	1949	N/A
Divorce	1949	ELF Jul 2011
M-record		LKB obit
RoyalOak City Directory	1950	LKB
US census	1950	not yet available
Detroit or other City Directory	1951	N/A
Move to FL	1957-58	LKB obit
FL Driving License		no record
US census	1960	not yet available
D-cert	06-Jun-67	MGB
Obit: Largo Sentinel	08/06/1967	MGB
Memorial	1973	MGB

GB & HB = George & Hannah BENNETT - his parents.
AB = Leonard's 1st wife, in England
GLJB & SGB = leonard's sons
LB / LKB = Leonard himself, the difference signifying the start of using "Keith" as a middle name.
ELF = Leonard's wife m Nov 1937, div 1949
MGB = Leonard's widow
N/A means I haven't found an entry, or the record hasn't been available.

thanks
Christine

[susan h]

Are you able to open this link, Christine?

http://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=1&gsfn=richard&gsln=ch%3fste&sx=&f3=Ontario&f4=&f5=&f8=toronto&f24=&f25=woburn+ave&f15=&rg_81004011__date=&rs_81004011__date=0&f17=&f20=&f26=&rg_f14__date=&rs_f14__date=0&_8000C002=&f21=&_80008002=&f22=&_80018002=&gskw=&prox=1&db=cancen1921&ti=5543&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&h=2919041&recoff=&ml_rpos=1

[susan h]

Ref for above: Reference Number: RG 31; Folder Number: 101; Census Place: Toronto (City), York South, Ontario; Page Number: 9.

Head of household Richard F Choste, age 40.

City, Town or City: Toronto City.
Street or Township: Woburn Ave
Municipality: Ward 3

[Christine in Herts]

Yes - thank you. That one is fine. Maybe it's just the images. Ah, no, you've used the .ca site!

Christine

[ozgirl]

Have you got it on the .uk yet Christine?

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=2919041

The Ref is the same as above

[Christine in Herts]

I wasn't trying to go via the UK site. This link gives you free access anyway to that census: http://www.ancestry.ca/1921census

If I try to go direct to the image via the links, I get the "wouldn't you like to spend lots more money?" page!

Christine