if someone arrived... [USA searching]

[Darksecretz]

in New York in 1848 would they have to go through Ellis Island does anyone know

I am trying to tie down where Charles LYDALL was, I have him in all census except 1850 [I presume that he will be in USA as he arrived in NY as this is the year he gives on the census]

in 1860 he is in Connecticut USA with his wife Margaret and children, I have tried looking but cannot spot him at all in the census there, interestingly enough, I have found a typed piece of info from the Hale Cemetery Inscriptions and Newspapers, that gives his death/burial but also says Civil War marker, [whatever that means!] I know his brother Henry was in the Civil war, but this is a new piece of info for me.

any pointers would be most gratefully received thanks

[Elaine ..Spain]

I think immigration through Ellis Island started late 19th century (c1890)

[Elaine ..Spain]

Try Castle Garden .. http://www.castlegarden.org/

[Janet in Yorkshire]

I don't think Ellis Island was used as an immigration centre until c1890, Julie.

Jay

[Darksecretz]

poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

thanks Ladies!.. I have just found some marriages for my connecticut lot too.. whooooooooooo hooooooooooooo

[foxyloxy]

Immigration to Ellis Island didn't start until 1890, prior to that it was Castle Garden and there were several other smaller ports in America, others went to Canada and border crossed into America http://www.immigrantships.net/arrivals/canada.html
This site also might be useful http://www.european-emigration.com/uk/research.html

[Darksecretz]

Immigration to Ellis Island didn't start until 1890, prior to that it was Castle Garden and there were several other smaller ports in America, others went to Canada and border crossed into America http://www.immigrantships.net/arrivals/canada.html
This site also might be useful http://www.european-emigration.com/uk/research.html

oooh Cheers Foxy.. I have found 'some' on Castle Garden, but will have a look at the others in a while after school run

[PhotoFamily]

in 1860 he is in Connecticut USA with his wife Margaret and children, I have tried looking but cannot spot him at all in the census there, interestingly enough, I have found a typed piece of info from the Hale Cemetery Inscriptions and Newspapers, that gives his death/burial but also says Civil War marker, [whatever that means!] I know his brother Henry was in the Civil war, but this is a new piece of info for me.

any pointers would be most gratefully received thanks

Hi, Julie -
Sounds like you already know the immigration resources

A Civil War marker should be an indication that he fought in the Civil War. You may be able to find an index card for him on Ancestry. If there is one, you may order the record from the National Archives.

It would be interesting to know if he was a member of the Grand Army of the Republic - the men's organization of CW Vets. Records exist for many GAR chapters.

Sarah

[Darksecretz]

Hi, Julie -
Sounds like you already know the immigration resources

A Civil War marker should be an indication that he fought in the Civil War. You may be able to find an index card for him on Ancestry. If there is one, you may order the record from the National Archives.

It would be interesting to know if he was a member of the Grand Army of the Republic - the men's organization of CW Vets. Records exist for many GAR chapters.

Sarah

I have been searching Sarah and nothing is jumping out!.. I know that his brother Henry Lydall was in the CV and I found info on him very easily, but not Charles.. grr

he was born [Charles] in 1824/5 in Whitwick, Leicestershire, but went over to USA about 1848, eventually settling in Connecticut

have to go out for about half an hour but will be back!..

[PhotoFamily]

I couldn't see the records on familysearch's 1890 census of civil war soldiers (do you know when charles died?).

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Alydall~&collection_id=1877095

It says there should be 19 records, but none display(?!)

Have you looked at familysearch's guide to CW research

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Beginning_United_States_Civil_War_Research

I tried looking at the NARA index - I can see Henry, but not Charles. I don't think the CW marker is absolute proof, but I'd not ignore it altogether, either.

I was under the (incorrect?) impression that CW soldier records didn't exist or were spotty, and that most info was gained from CW pension records. Not all soldiers (or their widows) applied for pension. Fold3 has many CW records indexed. I don't have a sub, and not sure when I'll next be at the library.

gotta go.

[Darksecretz]

Sarah,

Charles died abt 1912 in Hartford, Connecticut, his wife Margaret Risdon Lydall, [1816-1896] Harriet M [1856-1922] & Olive J Lydall [1858-1945] [his daughters]

i'll have a deeper look in a while, as I have to do a little shopping..

[Janet]

I think most people going to the States in the 1840's went via Canada.

Janet

[ozgirl]

In Sep 1864 Charles Lydall was drawn in the draft at New Britain, to fill quotas. Can't find out much more at the moment.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...rontpage&hl=en


(Top of page 3, article The Draft Commenced Again)

[Elaine]

There is this one


U.S. Returns from Regular Army Infantry Regiments, 1821-1916 about Charles Leidl??
Name: Charles Leidl??
Regiment: 28th Infantry
Year Range: 1866-1869

no.186 when you look

April 1867 I think

[Elaine]

Have you been here

http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-regiments-detail.htm?regiment_id=UCT0014RI

also under Lydale/Lydell/Lydall

been through the L's...nothing really pops out for Charles

[Elaine]

Home page in case it is useful to anyon

http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/soldiers-and-sailors-database.htm

[Darksecretz]

In Sep 1864 Charles Lydall was drawn in the draft at New Britain, to fill quotas. Can't find out much more at the moment.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...rontpage&hl=en


(Top of page 3, article The Draft Commenced Again)

ooh thank you Linda I never would have found that!

[Darksecretz]

There is this one


U.S. Returns from Regular Army Infantry Regiments, 1821-1916 about Charles Leidl??
Name: Charles Leidl??
Regiment: 28th Infantry
Year Range: 1866-1869

no.186 when you look

April 1867 I think

er where is this please Elaine :smilee:

[Elaine]

What about contacting the museum

http://www.newenglandcivilwarmuseum.com/

have searched the photos on facebook, all named

[Elaine]

Whoops

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=charles&gsln=lydall&msbdy=1824&msbpn__ftp=england&msrpn__ftp=Connecticut%2c+USA&msrpn=9&msrpn_PInfo=5-|0|1652393|0|2|3242|9|0|0|0|0|&msypn__ftp=conecticut&cpxt=1&uidh=aq7&msbdp=5&cp=12&pcat=39&h=14991535&recoff=5+6&db=ReturnsRegArmyInf&indiv=1&ml_rpos=9