edward joseph colyer born 17 may 1915

[belmonte]

looking for any information about the parents of Edward joseph Colyer he was left to bring up the rest of his family. when his. parents died.
He had 2 brothers Len William(bill)
also 5 sisters Lou, Rene, marjorie evelyne Joyce. He got married when he was 23.

[SmallTownGirl]

According to FreeBMD, it looks as if his parents were

Jesse Edward T Colyer, b. 1887, Bethnal Green, d. 1933, Bethnal Green
and
Louisa J Parsall, b. 1893, Bethnal Green.

and the 1911 census has him as a stoker in a glass works, at home with his parents
Jesse Edward age 45, waterside labourer, b. Silver St, Stepney
and
Minnie, age 43, b. Bethnal Green
and siblings
John Henry, 16
William, 8
Minnie, 11
and
Jane Lilian, 2

living at 4 Peacock Street, Bethnal Green.

[susan h]

Louisa J Colyer died Bethnal Green June 1936, age 43, 1c/119. Fits with Edward Joseph age 21 raising his siblings.

[susan h]

1911, 3, Peacock Street, Bethnal Green (so a neighbour of her future husband.

Joseph Parsall 40, Carman, Bethnal Green
Louisa Parsall 40, Bethnal Green (married 19yrs, 6children alive, 3 died.
Louisa Parsall 18, Button Maker, Old Bethnal Green
Sophia Parsall 16, Hackney
Caroline Parsall 13, Hackney
Joseph Parsall 11, Hackney
Samuel Parsall 9, Hackney
Lillian Parsall 2, Whitechapel

[susan h]

Marriage 25 Dec 1914, Bethnal Green St Jude

Jesse Edward Colyer, 26, Bachelor, 4, Peacock St, father: Jesse Edward (Waterside Labourer)

Louisa Jane Parsall, 21, Spinster, Button Maker, 4, Peacock St, father: Joseph (Carman)

Witnesses: John Henry Colyer and Sophia Margaret Parsall

[Katarzyna]

Hi Belmonte, welcome to the forum.
You would need to buy his birth certificate from the GRO in order to verify that the above named parents are indeed his.
As you don't give any info about where Edward was born we are only guessing.
I assume you have his birth information from his death certificate? Death March Qtr 1979 in Stepney.
If so then this is probably the GRO reference you would need to buy the certificate.
Edward J Colyer
Mothers Maiden name - Parsall
June Qtr 1915
Bethnall Green, Volume No 1C, Page 274
This will give you his parents names and occupations for you to verify the above info.

You can buy the cert from here:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

[belmonte]

sorry I didn't give you the info yesterday. Here is a little more thanks
Edward Joseph Colyer was born 17th May 1915 at Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets. He was a textile Manager . When he got married to Ellen Abitha Jenkins he lived at 28 Settle Street Whitechapel London. In the 1950's they moved to 28 Ernest street Stepney. He was 23 when he got married in a Register office .His father Edward Jesse Colyer was not alive at the time of the wedding. Edward was living at 33 Craven Buildings Bethnal Green London. cheers!

[belmonte]

Info please about Edward Joseph Colyer, what did he do in the 2nd world war we think he was in the Scottish regiment as he had a photo wearing a kilt

[SmallTownGirl]

WWII service records are only available to next of kin, and for a price. See

https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

[Katarzyna]

Sorry - I thought you wanted to know about his parents - your 1st Post. - not the war record!
But if you do then, you will need to buy his birth certificate otherwise you'll never be sure you have the right lines.

[margaretmarch]

Info please about Edward Joseph Colyer, what did he do in the 2nd world war we think he was in the Scottish regiment as he had a photo wearing a kilt

Individual WW2 records are only available from the MOD at a cost of £30 and you have to be next of kin. It takes anything up to 6 months for these to be provided see here https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-pers...ervice-records

Margaret

Sorry duplicate post - STG got in first!

[Richard in Perth]

They are all buried at Manor Park Cemetery, according to www.deceasedonline.com :

Colyer, Jesse Edward
Buried On: 06 Nov 1933
Recorded at: Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)
Date of death 30 Oct 1933

Colyer, Louisa Jane
Buried On: 04 May 1936
Recorded at: Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)
Date of death 26 Apr 1936

Colyer, Edward Joseph
Buried On: 26 Mar 1979
Recorded at: Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)
Date of death 16 Mar 1979

COLYER, Ellen Abitha
Buried On: 06 Jul 1999
Recorded at: Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)
Date of death 25 Jun 1999

[belmonte]

Thank you so much Richard with all the names & info, my husband can now put names to his fathers parents. Am I being cheeky but can you tell me how Jesse Edward & Louisa Jane died as they were both so young

[SmallTownGirl]

Unless their cause of death was something newsworthy, and there was a report in the local paper, the only way to establish it would be to buy their death certificates.

[belmonte]

Hi is it possible to be able to find Jesse Edward Colyer & Louisa J Parsall's parents please. It was amazing that you found these 2 & their siblings. Thank you

[Katarzyna]

Louisa's parents:
Joseph Parsall and Louise Braham marriage 1 Aug 1892, Bethnal Green St Thomas Father Name: John Parsall Spouse Father Name: Samuel Braham

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31280_196235-00172/2656316?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dlmamarriages%26h%3d2656316%26ti%3d5538%26indiv%3dtry%26gss%3dpt%26ssrc%3dpt_t62498549_p48088725867_kpidz0q3d48088725867z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&ssrc=pt_t62498549_p48088725867_kpidz0q3d48088725867z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&backlabel=ReturnRecord

1901 census: Louisa Parsall

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1901&h=16107635&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t62498549_p48088725867_kpidz0q3d48088725867z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

Joseph Parsall 30
Louisa Parsall 29
Louisa Parsall 8
Sophia Parsall 6
Caroline Parsall 3
Joseph Parsall 1
Bethnal Green

[Katarzyna]

Louisa Braham 1881 census

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&h=15113742&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t62498549_p48088725868_kpidz0q3d48088725868z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

Samuel Braham 59
Mary Ann Braham 41
Susannah Braham 11
Louisa Braham 9
Henry Saml. Braham 11 months

38 Camden Street BG

[Katarzyna]

1881 Joseph Parsall
141 Old Bethnal Green Rd

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&h=15039481&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t62498549_p48088725867_kpidz0q3d48088725867z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

John Parsall 37 Carman b Whitechapel
Jane Parsall 49 b Limehouse, Middlesex
John Parsall 14
Joseph Parsall 12 b Bethnall Green
George Parsall 10
Arthur Parsall 6
James Smith 19 lodger

[Katarzyna]

This could be John Parsall in 1851 - an orphan

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&h=335684&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t62498549_p48088726077_kpidz0q3d48088726077z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

Joseph Downe 23 willow cutter b B G
Sarah Ann Downe 22
Thomas Downe 2
Sarah Downe 1 Mo
John Parsall 7 orphan b B G

5 Shacklewell Street B G

[Katarzyna]

Marriage for John Parsall and Jane Elizabeth Smith, 14 Nov 1881, Bethnal Green, St Thomas, both widows. Residence at marriage - both - 141 Old Bethnal Green Road

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31280_198857-00089/4083057?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fssrc%3dpt_t62498549_p48088726077_kpidz0q3d48088726077z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid_m1%26srchb%3dr%26gss%3dangs-g%26rank%3d1%26tid%3d62498549%26pid%3d48088726077%26gsfn%3dJohn%26gsln%3dParsall%26msbdy%3d1844%26msbpn__ftp%3dWhitechapel%252c%2bMiddlesex%252c%2bEngland%26cp%3d11%26cpxt%3d1%26msrpn__ftp%3dBethnal%2bGreen%252c%2bMiddlesex%252c%2bEngland%26msrpn1__ftp%3dBethnal%2bGreen%252c%2bLondon%252c%2bEngland%26mssng0%3dJane%26mssns0%3dParsall%26mscng0%3dJoseph%26mscns0%3dParsall%26mscng1%3dGeorge%26mscns1%3dParsall%26mscng2%3dArthur%26mscns2%3dParsall%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26h%3d4083057%26recoff%3d9%2b10%2b31%2b32%2b43%26db%3dLMAmarriages%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

John 37 - Carman - father John Parsall - Wood Merchant
Jane 47 father Frederick Darling?? - sawyer