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    Would anyone be able to advise me if I ordered the microfilm from Family Search for a birth in 1824 if it would have the mother's maiden name. It is for the birth of my gggrandmother Ann Cross. Father John and mother Sarah but no maiden name. Thanks if anyone can help.:D

  • #2
    It's very unusual to find maiden names on baptism entries, at least I have never come across any!

    There is a transcription of the entry on FreeReg, which is where you may have found your info. I doubt there is any more info available on the original document.
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    • #3
      .. and sorry, should have said "welcome to Family Tree Forum"
      Elaine







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      • #4
        depends where in england or UK your family is from, and what the priest chose to include in the records.

        parish registers before 1812 usually include less information than ones after 1812. so while i doubt the mother's name is ont he record, address and maybe father's occupation should be.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kylejustin View Post
          ... address and maybe father's occupation should be.
          Yes, that appears on the transcription on freeReg
          Occ. Servant - Abode Barkestone
          Elaine







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          • #6
            if they were in Barkestone for the baptism, then it might be worthwhile checking there for a marriage between John/Sarah, then, gradually widen the search area.

            I know that Barkestone is near to Langar, Plungar, Redmile, Barnstone, Granby, Stathern, Harby, Hose, Eastwell, Eaton and Branston, so these are all places to look and hopefully eliminate them one by one.

            do you have Ann at all on any census? or her parents, if so could you please state which/when and where.
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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            • #7
              Just had a look at leicestershirelass Phillimore's Marriages - Barkston 1569 to 1837
              http://leicestershireparishrecords.b...n-1569-to.html but can't find them on there, very possibly Sarah was from another parish and married in her parish, it might be worth checking other local parishes to Barkston
              Foxyloxy

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              • #8
                Barkestone help appreciated

                Originally posted by foxyloxy View Post
                Just had a look at leicestershirelass Phillimore's Marriages - Barkston 1569 to 1837
                http://leicestershireparishrecords.b...n-1569-to.html but can't find them on there, very possibly Sarah was from another parish and married in her parish, it might be worth checking other local parishes to Barkston
                Thankyou all for your help. I am wondering if Lancashire is close to Barkestone as there is a John Cross marriage to Sarah Ball 27/09/1821 but he is a mariner there.
                Also daughter Ann is on the 1841 census where John Cross (new wife Elizabeth) is a publican, Caledonian Arms, apparently since 1828 according to newspaper archives.

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                • #9
                  Thankyou all for your help. Would Liverpool, Lancashire be close enough for a marriage I have a John Cross marrying Sarah Ball in 1821 where he is a mariner.
                  Also Ann Cross is in 1841 with father John (new wife Elizabeth) where he is a publican of Caledonian Arms and according to archive newspapers was from 1828.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tika View Post
                    Thankyou all for your help. I am wondering if Lancashire is close to Barkestone as there is a John Cross marriage to Sarah Ball 27/09/1821 but he is a mariner there.
                    Also daughter Ann is on the 1841 census where John Cross (new wife Elizabeth) is a publican, Caledonian Arms, apparently since 1828 according to newspaper archives.
                    Not really, Lancashire is to the north west from Leicestershire, and may well be over 100 miles from each other.
                    Last edited by Darksecretz; 23-06-13, 15:15.
                    Julie
                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                    .......I find dead people

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                    • #11
                      John and Sarah Cross had another daughter baptised 1822 7th July Mary Cross
                      C04456-1
                      System Origin: England-ODM
                      GS Film number: 585301 .............................Edna

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                      • #12
                        Can you give us any more info on the family?
                        There are burials in the areas Julie mentioned and also Bottesford, I was wondering if it could be a Notts marriage but computer crashed last week and I lost the Notts stuff for the mo!
                        Elaine

                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                        • #13
                          Barkestone, Leicestershire.

                          Thankyou all for your help great to have suggestions and someone elses advice. John Cross, although birth in 1841 census was given as 1801. I ordered his death certificate of August 1849 and it gives his DOB as 1794 (also newspaper article said he was 55yrs so I guess that will be right. Have no clues to brothers although a Robert Cross's daughter died at their address. I may have to order that certificate. Only other 'clue?' is that John's first son was John Spencer cross. Could it be that his parents were William Cross and Mary Spencer married Leicester 1769?

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                          • #14
                            Where are they1849/1851?
                            Elaine

                            Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                            http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                            http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                            • #15
                              John Cross died early Aug. 1849, second wife Elizabeth died Jan. 1849. Ann married George Thomas Harris in Aug. 1849 and she, him and daughter Annie are in the 1851 census, he a victualler at 'The White Lion', St. giles. Also there Ann's stepsister, Sophia, stepbrother Alfred, (John Spencer Cross was deceased) and Eliza Merryweather born 1828 to John and Sarah (I can't find her marriage, but can find the baptism of her son. Thanks again, such a riddle.

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                              • #16
                                There's a burial record for him I think address Prince's Street age 55


                                London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
                                Name: John Cross
                                Record Type: Burial
                                Estimated Death Date: abt 1849
                                Burial Date: 7 Aug 1849
                                Age: 55
                                Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
                                Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington Green St Mary
                                Borough: Westminster
                                Register Type: Parish Register

                                1841 Census
                                Princess Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone
                                St Marylebone
                                HO107 piece 678 folio 6/12 page 18
                                Last edited by Elaine; 26-06-13, 23:33.
                                Elaine

                                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                • #17
                                  I think this might be the second marriage

                                  London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
                                  Spouse Name: Elizabeth Seymour
                                  Record Type: Marriage
                                  Event Date: 7 Jul 1835
                                  Parish: St Marylebone Christ Church
                                  Borough: Westminster
                                  Register Type: Parish Register
                                  Baptisms

                                  Address Princes Street
                                  London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
                                  Name: Emma Cross
                                  Record Type: Baptism
                                  Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1836
                                  Father's Name: John Cross
                                  Mother's Name: Elizth Cross
                                  Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
                                  Borough: Westminster
                                  Register Type: Parish Registers

                                  Name: Sophia Cross
                                  Record Type: Baptism
                                  Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1838
                                  Father's Name: John Cross
                                  Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cross
                                  Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
                                  Borough: Westminster
                                  Register Type: Parish Registers

                                  London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
                                  Name: John Spencer Cross
                                  Record Type: Baptism
                                  Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1840
                                  Father's Name: John Cross
                                  Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cross
                                  Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
                                  Borough: Westminster
                                  Register Type: Parish Registers
                                  Last edited by Elaine; 26-06-13, 23:33.
                                  Elaine

                                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                  • #18
                                    Thankyou so much Elaine, definitely the same family. Thanks for info on burial record for John Cross although it probably won't tell me from where he originated it may help. much appreciated especially your time in researching for me.

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                                    • #19
                                      Have you got Ann's second marriage

                                      London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
                                      Name: Ann Harris
                                      Spouse Name: William John Watson
                                      Record Type: Marriage
                                      Event Date: 29 Apr 1855
                                      Parish: Langham
                                      Borough: Westminster
                                      Father Name: John Cross
                                      Spouse Father Name: William Watson
                                      Register Type: Parish Register

                                      The female witness was Elizabeth Hannah Harris now Mercer
                                      Elaine

                                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                      • #20
                                        Yes I did have that info. I have even found her daughter's marriage, but am absolutely stumped on John and Sarah, their marriage and where they were from. I think maybe I'll try to see if the Lds can order the microfilm just in case I can find a clue somewhere. Thankyou once again, such a wonderful group of people you all are.

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