Hi,
I first come across Charles Bishop (my husband's 2xgreat grandfather) when he marries at St. Nicolas, Brighton, Sussex on 8 September 1836. He states that he is a bachelor otp and marries Eliza Hornsberry (aka Elizabeth Hollingsbury) spinster otp. They both make their mark and the witnesses are Charles Denyer and William Shilley or Skilley.
Charles and Eliza go on to have 8 children all baptised at St. Nicolas between 1837 and 1855 viz. Maria, Charles, Martha, Thomas, Mary Ann, William, George and Margaret. Eliza's parents were James and Grace so no obvious naming pattern.
He is the perfect ancestor in that he appears in all the censuses between 1841 and his death in 1887 however he doesn't seem to know where he was born as all censuses show a different birthplace, although always Kent.
In 1841, living in Air Street, Brighton he states that he was not born in that county so not Sussex. His occupation is stated as Chair Maker which remains consistent in all remaining censuses in which he is either a Chair Maker or a Chair Bottomer.
The remaining census records show his birthplace as:
1851 Kent - Audley
1861 Kent - ?Pudsey
1871 Kent - Widley
1881 Kent - Tudley
Apart from 1841 when ages were rounded which produces a birthdate of 1811, the remaining census records indicate a birthdate of 1809 or 1810. He and his family are living in Brighton, where he dies, for all censuses apart from 1871 when he and his wife are found at Portsea in Hampshire?
I've searched the obvious Tudeley cum Capel registers and can find nothing verifiable.
Did Chair Makers/Bottomers have to be apprenticed?
Any ideas as to how I might locate a birth for Charles Bishop and thus break down this brickwall and take my husband's ancestry further back would be most appreciated.
Regards, Pheno
I first come across Charles Bishop (my husband's 2xgreat grandfather) when he marries at St. Nicolas, Brighton, Sussex on 8 September 1836. He states that he is a bachelor otp and marries Eliza Hornsberry (aka Elizabeth Hollingsbury) spinster otp. They both make their mark and the witnesses are Charles Denyer and William Shilley or Skilley.
Charles and Eliza go on to have 8 children all baptised at St. Nicolas between 1837 and 1855 viz. Maria, Charles, Martha, Thomas, Mary Ann, William, George and Margaret. Eliza's parents were James and Grace so no obvious naming pattern.
He is the perfect ancestor in that he appears in all the censuses between 1841 and his death in 1887 however he doesn't seem to know where he was born as all censuses show a different birthplace, although always Kent.
In 1841, living in Air Street, Brighton he states that he was not born in that county so not Sussex. His occupation is stated as Chair Maker which remains consistent in all remaining censuses in which he is either a Chair Maker or a Chair Bottomer.
The remaining census records show his birthplace as:
1851 Kent - Audley
1861 Kent - ?Pudsey
1871 Kent - Widley
1881 Kent - Tudley
Apart from 1841 when ages were rounded which produces a birthdate of 1811, the remaining census records indicate a birthdate of 1809 or 1810. He and his family are living in Brighton, where he dies, for all censuses apart from 1871 when he and his wife are found at Portsea in Hampshire?
I've searched the obvious Tudeley cum Capel registers and can find nothing verifiable.
Did Chair Makers/Bottomers have to be apprenticed?
Any ideas as to how I might locate a birth for Charles Bishop and thus break down this brickwall and take my husband's ancestry further back would be most appreciated.
Regards, Pheno
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