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silverfoxcc
21-05-13, 22:01
I have posted on several forums re this query,( so many i have lost count of which ones!!!) but for some reason or another, have not had any suggestions, othr than well meaning people giving me info i already know and have preambled with. ( my thanks to them for their input)

So to keep things to a minimum this is my problem

1) i have traced my line back to a John Vale b 1792 in Buttsbury Essex
2) My line traces back to his second marriage in 1828
3) from info gleaned from censuses in 1871 and 1881 i have reason to believe (but no proof) that a John Vale b 1817 in either Stifford or Stanford-le-Hope is his son from a first marriage
4) as records commenced in 1837 i need to find
a) the first marriage details
b) John Vales (1817) birth details

A visit to the Essex RO drew a blank and the Mormon site details of the marriages of John Vales in that timescale ( 1810-1818) has also been discounted. Would appreciate any help/pointers on where to go next to prove/disprove the link

Thanks for reading

maudarby
21-05-13, 22:22
Hi
Did you look through the Boyd's marriage index at the record office? If not I think Britishorigins has these records.
Jack Baxter's marriage index covers parishes & years not covered by Boyds.
http://sturnidae.com/Essex/Marriages.htm

Peter Nutt's baptism index might help you find John Vale's birth.
http://sturnidae.com/Essex/Baptisms.htm

Moggie

As you have been to the Essex Records Office I am sure you already know about SEAX but just in case you don't here is the link.
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/

silverfoxcc
21-05-13, 23:06
Moggie,
Thanks for the pointers, an Internet pint or hug for you( whatever you want!!)
I will have a firkle in the next few days and give an update

margaretmarch
21-05-13, 23:21
There are these two on the Vicar General Licenses
John Vale to Mary Woodward 1807
John Veale to Elizabeth Tuerena 1809 and
John Vale to Jane Washington 1810 at Navestock - Boyd's Marriage index

and then

Vaile to Singleton 1812 Vicar General
Veal to How 1811 Vicar General
Veal to Pryer 1808 Vicar General

Margaret

maudarby
21-05-13, 23:31
John Vale to Jane Washington 1810 at Navestock - Boyd's Marriage index

That one looks promising Margaret, not too far from Buttsbury.
Moggie

margaretmarch
22-05-13, 09:35
John Vale to Jane Washington 1810 at Navestock - Boyd's Marriage index

That one looks promising Margaret, not too far from Buttsbury.
Moggie

That's what I was thinking - I used to work in Brentwood and Basildon so have a rough idea of the names around that area.

Margaret

kylejustin
22-05-13, 10:24
plus the navestock record could be the one you'd need and say he was from the parish you need to tie it in.

silverfoxcc
22-05-13, 22:30
Thanks for all the updates.. More than i can shake a stick at!!!