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Darksecretz
15-05-13, 11:09
I have been tracking the Lydalls and have found something I can't get my head around.

James Henry Robinson b. 1895 Thringstone, Leicestershire is noted as a Step-son to

George Joseph Perry and Hannah Perry

this is them here in 1911:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911England&indiv=try&h=21992354
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 19098.

with GJP & HP are their other children:

Benjamin Lydall Perry b. 1904 in Whitwick, Leicestershire
Ernest Reginald Perry b. 1907 in Thringstone, Leicestershire.

GJP & HP marry in 1903 in ADLZ dist [her name is given as ROBINSON]

BUT

I find in 1901 a William & Hannah ROBINSON with son James A b. 1895 Thringstone

1901: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1901&indiv=try&h=17290584
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2974; Folio: 142; Page: 42.

though I can't find a marriage for William to Hannah [even though she gives the correct DOB/POB to be 'my' Hannah]

I can't spot anything else that even looks likely!

sorry for such a long post, but, I keep staring at it and getting nowhere fast!..

can anyone else offer a theory or connect the above..

thanks

Chrissie Smiff
15-05-13, 12:07
First of all Julie, your first post is in 1911. So they fit fine. It's just a marriage you need to find I take it?

Darksecretz
15-05-13, 12:12
First of all Julie, your first post is in 1911. So they fit fine. It's just a marriage you need to find I take it?

oops sorry about that!..

I am trying to find the marriage between William Robinson & Hannah ? I'm making a right old porridge of this aren't I?

I have found an Ancestry tree with JH Robinson so/William & Hannah, but I think that they have some details wrong!.

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 12:13
Not sure why you are so confused Julie, unless I am looking at this wrongly.

The only difference I can see is that in 1901 James is recorded as James A Robinson, but in 1911 is recorded as James Henry Robinson.
To me it looks as if they are probably the same person, and maybe mistranscribed or incorrectly recorded as James A in 1901.

By the way the first census you have quoted is from 1911 - you have typed

this is them here in 1901:
- might confuse someone, it did me to start with! :)

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 12:13
.. Chrissie was quicker than me! :)

Chrissie Smiff
15-05-13, 12:16
That makes a change Elaine :rotfl:

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 12:16
Is this one too early?

Marriages Dec 1894
Cook Frank Hickinbotham
Robinson William
Thornley Ellen
WRIGHT Hannah
Ashby Z. 7a 251

(Haven't paired them off yet!)

Chrissie Smiff
15-05-13, 12:17
I was just going to post that one Elaine - so tit for tat :rotfl:

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 12:17
There are a couple of Hannah Wrights born c1874 Shepshed in the 1891 census.

Chrissie Smiff
15-05-13, 12:19
It isn't too early by the way.

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 12:20
It isn't too early by the way.
I agree .. just realised it was a stupid comment seeing as James was born c1895! :rotfl:

Darksecretz
15-05-13, 12:22
sorry, [again!] for the confusion, I was looking at this last night and was quite tired. BUT, looking at this now, that marriage Elaine looks very possible!

just need to kill off William for her to be available to marry George Joseph Perry.

Chrissie Smiff
15-05-13, 12:24
Funnily enough, there are two birth in Ashby in 1895 - March James Henry and Sept James Arthur.

Darksecretz
15-05-13, 12:24
It isn't too early by the way.


I agree .. just realised it was a stupid comment seeing as James was born c1895! :rotfl:

eh??

I have 'found' James' death, he died in 1970 and his DOB is given as 26 Dec 1894.. so could well be right!.

Chrissie Smiff
15-05-13, 12:26
What about the death in Ashby in March 1901 ? Sorry, I'm talking about William here.

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 12:28
Possible ..

Deaths Dec 1901
Robinson William age at death 30
Ashby Z. 7a 67

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 12:29
What about the death in Ashby in March 1901 ? Sorry, I'm talking about William here.
That one is for a child, aged under 1

Deaths Mar 1901
Robinson William age 0
Ashby Z. 7a 62

Darksecretz
15-05-13, 12:46
blinking heck..talk about thick and fast...lol!! I can't keep up!.

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 15:31
Are you sorted now Julie! :)

Chrissie Smiff
15-05-13, 16:04
Sorry, I had to dash off. I hadn't looked properly Elaine. I couldn't seem to see the ages for some odd reason and wondered why :o I was close though wasn't I :D

Elaine ..Spain
15-05-13, 16:09
Sorry, I had to dash off. I hadn't looked properly Elaine. I couldn't seem to see the ages for some odd reason and wondered why :o I was close though wasn't I :D

The March 1901 death could possibly be a child of William Robinson and wife Hannah.
On the 1911 census it states Hannah and George have been married 7 years, and Hannah has had 7 children, 4 of whom have died.
It looks as if she may have included the children from the first marriage as there are only two listed with the surname Perry.

Darksecretz
15-05-13, 21:49
Are you sorted now Julie! :)

erm, I think so... no wait, there was something, but, I have only just got back in after giving blood and walking the dog.

I did sort out GJP eventually... Hannah Wright late Robinson died in 1916 and he married again!!... lead me a merry dance that he did!!

I was looking at his brother.. Charles William Perry he was born 1887 in whitwick.. I have him in 1891 [as Charlotte N!!] with parents and also in 1901 and he is living with George Joseph & Hannah in 1911.

after that I lose him.

Elaine ..Spain
16-05-13, 08:49
Found this one Julie ..

PERRY, Charles William - born 5 December 1886
Death registration 1971 1st qtr.
Market Bosworth volume 3a, page 2303

.. which might fit in with this birth registration
Births Dec 1886
Perry Charles William
Ashby Z. 7a 116

Darksecretz
17-05-13, 08:33
Found this one Julie ..

PERRY, Charles William - born 5 December 1886
Death registration 1971 1st qtr.
Market Bosworth volume 3a, page 2303

.. which might fit in with this birth registration
Births Dec 1886
Perry Charles William
Ashby Z. 7a 116

sorry for not replying sooner, been abit busy with poorly children.. but that does look likely Elaine... Thanks :smilee: