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This is a possible 1861 record for William and Ann
If he is 37 in 1871, then he is 26 here. And the age diiference between him and Ann remains at 5 or 6 years. All perfectly possible.
What concerns me is that their places of birth change between the two records. How to find William in the 1851 census!!
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According to the 1871 census he was born Lambeth, so south of the river. The only apt baptism I can find is William Henry baptised Wandsworth dec 9th 1832 son of George Samuel and Mary. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=5576405Last edited by Guest; 14-05-13, 13:36.
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There were other children baptised to William (Henry) and Ann on same day as Clara Grace. Oct 15th 1871, at Lambeth St Peter, West Dulwich
Both described as adult baptisms; William Henry and Alice Grace. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=8741724
Edit: info added, the William Henry adult baptism I think is William Henry snr. his baptism was Oct 8th, Alice Grace Oct 17th.
Wonder why Alice Grace wasn't baptised on same day as Clara Grace????????????????Last edited by Guest; 14-05-13, 15:55.
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Last edited by vera2013; 14-05-13, 15:55.
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Thanks for you interest everyone.
Alice Grace is my wife's great grandmother. My father in law remembers her before her death in 1939. The family story goes that the parents died when the children (Alice, Clara and William) were quiet young. The girls were sent to an orphanage in the Teingmouth area but the fate of William is unknown. I think the orphanage was run by a relgious order ( I have some notes somewhere which I must dig out but there is nothing conclusive as to which orphanage)
Until this week my research had suggested that the parents were William Alexander Evennett and Ann Harriet Spears (as suggested by Elaine above). This would suggest the children were Allice Ann Harriet Evennett, Clara Elizabeth Evennett and William Henry Evennett. We wondered why the girls middle names had changed, both to Grace. We thought maybe that the new names were given to them at the orphanaged, perhaps after a nun/sister who looked after them. Did such things happen?
Then I found the baptism records of the family http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/15...cklabel=Return
This clearly shows
1) The father name to be William Henry
2) The girls middle name is Grace.
At this time the children wouild be 10 (Alice), 7 (Clara) and 2 (William) years of age. Why are the children and the father being baptised now and all together (ish). Would the baptism of a 10 year old be regarded as an adult baptism..
So working from this information I am trying to develop a new profile for William Henry and add him into the family tree as an alternative to William Alexandra
William Henry Evennett
Baptism http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/15...cklabel=Return
1871 http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/76...l=ReturnRecord
Alice Grace Evennett
Death http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/75...l=ReturnRecord
1911 http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/23...l=ReturnRecord
1901 http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/78...l=ReturnRecord
1897 Marraige http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/89...l=ReturnRecord
1891? http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/65...l=ReturnRecord
1881 http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/75...l=ReturnRecord
1871 Not Found
1861 Birth (if child of William Alexandra) http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/89...l=ReturnRecord
So no birth certificates yet as uncertain if we have the correct children. I think the next step is to try and find the marriage of William Henry and Ann and perhaps a death record for William Henry.
A thought just occured to me - if the Childrens middle names where changed at the time of their baptisms in 1871, might the fathers' middle name have changed as well. That would confusing things a lot.
Thanks again for all the help.
Dermot
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It's possible that when the children were to be admitted to the orphanage that it was a requirement to be baptised and so that was done for them all at the same time. To go into an orphanage didn't mean there were no parents just that the one remaining parent was unable to look after them.
The change of middle name from that at birth is more difficult to explain and could be for a variety of reasons although why both girls with the same middle name is beyond me at the moment.
Margaret
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Margaret
In the 1881 link should be for the next page. Sorry. http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/75...2148_2152-0938
Alice G Evenett, 19, Nurserymaid - Domestic Servant.
The marriage certificate just says deceased for her father:(
DLast edited by dermotdjt; 15-05-13, 12:27.
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Originally posted by dermotdjt View PostMargaret
In the 1881 link should be for the next page. Sorry. http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/75...2148_2152-0938
Alice G Evenett, 19, Nurserymaid - Domestic Servant.
The marriage certificate just says deceased for her father:(
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Margaret
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She may have forgotten him but I'm sure she did know him as she would have been baptised when she was 10. I think re the marriage certificate it was more a case of since William was dead then no details were recorded other than 'deceased'.
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There are these two deaths that look possible for William
William Alexander Evennett
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1871
Age at Death: 37
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 311
William Henry Evennett
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1872
Age at Death: 49
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 124
Only the first one matches with the census records you have and for the location of the baptisms. I would get the death cert for William Alexander to see what occupation if any was given as well as the informant who may or may not be a relative.
This death also fits with the mother Ann who is showing registered in the same district just before.
Ann Harriet Evennett
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1871
Age at Death: 42
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 273
MargaretLast edited by margaretmarch; 15-05-13, 16:18.
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