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  • John LYDALL b. 1808 where do you fit in??

    in my research I have found

    John LYDALL b.1808 Whitwick, Leicestershire. he marries an [Elizabeth] from Shepshed, Leicestershire

    census:

    1841: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...ki1841&indiv=1
    Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 596; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Sheepshed; County: Leicestershire; Enumeration District: 27; Folio: 16; Page: 10; Line: 1; GSU roll: 438746.

    1851:http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...ki1851&indiv=1
    Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2085; Folio: 452; Page: 4; GSU roll: 87712.

    1861:http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=8860
    Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2455; Folio: 49; Page: 4; GSU roll: 542973.

    1871:http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=8767
    Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3505; Folio: 21; Page: 36; GSU roll: 839745.

    I am pretty sure that John dies in Nottm in Oct 1871 [and Elizabeth I think pre-deceases him]

    what I don't know is where he fits in to my LYDALLS, any help tracking him back and possibly his parents would be most appreciated, thanks
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

  • #2
    not ignoring anyone.. I need to get to bed.. am pooped!.. x
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

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    • #3
      His wife is Elizabeth Johnson, Lizzy

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      • #4
        apparently married shepshed in 1825 to elizabeth johnson, this is from an ancestry tree.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by liz hutchison View Post
          His wife is Elizabeth Johnson, Lizzy
          Originally posted by kylejustin View Post
          apparently married shepshed in 1825 to elizabeth johnson, this is from an ancestry tree.
          brilliant!.. I know he did work in the needle making business, as he apprenticed a relative on the 1851 census, I am just having problems trying to connect him to 'my' Lydalls.

          I can't find a likely bapt for him @ Whitwick in 1808 either..

          not ignoring anyone, have to go out for a little while.
          Julie
          They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

          .......I find dead people

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          • #6
            Don't know if this helps, but possible the Elizabeth Johnson living with them in 1841 is his mother-in-law.
            Linda


            My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ozgirl View Post
              Don't know if this helps, but possible the Elizabeth Johnson living with them in 1841 is his mother-in-law.
              Hi Linda, I hadn't noticed that!.. I can't seem to read though what it has for her occupation in 41, I think I know what the second word is, but, I am struggling with the first!

              [but yes, I do agree that she could be a MIL]
              Julie
              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

              .......I find dead people

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              • #8
                her occupation is not stated its her life,"Poor Widow" lizzy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by liz hutchison View Post
                  her occupation is not stated its her life,"Poor Widow" lizzy
                  I knew what I meant...lol its in the occupation box, innit? [I guessed it was 'widow' something]
                  Julie
                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                  .......I find dead people

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                  • #10
                    So to back up the marriage date from tree

                    Shepshed 26-Dec 1825 Banns
                    John Lydall OTP
                    Elizabeth Johnson OTP
                    Elaine

                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                    • #11
                      I have just found Elizabeth's death in Nottingham, 1869.
                      Julie
                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                      .......I find dead people

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Elaine View Post
                        So to back up the marriage date from tree

                        Shepshed 26-Dec 1825 Banns
                        John Lydall OTP
                        Elizabeth Johnson OTP
                        that's great Elaine.. :smilee:

                        I have just been creating a mini tree for this family, according to a biography I found John Lydall was a distant relative of Henry Lydall [who was an apprentice needlmaker living with him in 1851 in Shepshed]
                        Julie
                        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                        .......I find dead people

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                        • #13
                          How about

                          John Lydal M CHR 17 APR 1808 John Mary Whitwick St John
                          Last edited by Elaine; 12-05-13, 21:26.
                          Elaine

                          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                          http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                          http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Elaine View Post
                            How about

                            John Lydal M CHR 17 APR 1808 John Mary Whitwick St John
                            ohher.. that'd praps work.. *doh* I don't suppose you can see if he has any siblings at all... [am trying to work out where he fits in, but without some sort of evidence its as bad as trying to look for Smith & Jones!]

                            I have just found some bapts on FS but some have a mass bapt of 25 dec 1833 [except that one of them wasn't born until 1834!] and there are at least 2 burials in shep for two lydall children.
                            Julie
                            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                            .......I find dead people

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                            • #15
                              And looking through Whitwick

                              Edward Lydall M CHR 10 JUN 1804 John Mary
                              Isabella Lydall F CHR 4 MAY 1806 John Mary
                              George Lydal M BIRT 5 AUG 1812 John Mary baptized 14 May 1815, f framework knitter
                              of Whitwick

                              Edward Lydall M BURI 11 JUN 1806
                              Issabella Lydall F BURI 7 SEP 1807
                              John Lydal M BURI 10 MAY 1815 age 41 of Whitwick....there is a baptism for a.... John Lydall M CHR 26 APR 1774 John Mary
                              Mary Lydal F BURI 7 JUN 1815 age 54 of Whitwick


                              ALSO
                              John Lydall M MARR 11 NOV 1811 Sarah Williamson Wit: Sarah Horn, Jos Wright
                              William Cart M MARR 29 APR 1816 Mary Lydal
                              Last edited by Elaine; 12-05-13, 21:50.
                              Elaine

                              Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                              http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                              http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                              • #16
                                John Lydal M BURI 10 MAY 1815 age 41 of Whitwick....there is a baptism for a.... John Lydall M CHR 26 APR 1774 John Mary
                                oooooooooooooooo now THAT could well be the connection Elaine... if it is the same John/Mary she was nee BRANSON [and I have these in my Tree!]
                                Julie
                                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                .......I find dead people

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                                • #17
                                  And Whitwick

                                  Whitwick 20-Jan 1767 B
                                  John Lydall OTP
                                  Mary Branson OTP


                                  the only other one for a John seems to be 1811 so far
                                  Elaine

                                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Elaine View Post
                                    And Whitwick

                                    Whitwick 20-Jan 1767 B
                                    John Lydall OTP
                                    Mary Branson OTP


                                    the only other one for a John seems to be 1811 so far
                                    I have this marriage.. the only other one for a John is 1811... this is a burial? or marriage?
                                    Julie
                                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                    .......I find dead people

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                                    • #19
                                      All I could find John LYDA

                                      Richard Boncer M MARR 6 JUL 1818 Elizabeth Lydal in presence of John Lydall
                                      John Lydall M BURI 18 OCT 1823 age 79 of Whitwick
                                      John Lydall M BURI 2 OCT 1831 couldn't read age, of Thringstone

                                      Henry Lydall M MARR 26 APR 1774 Mary Toon Wit: Jno Owen, John Lydall
                                      Joseph Griffin M MARR 11 DEC 1780 Elizabeth Simpkin Wit: John Lydall, John Rowell
                                      Thomas Wallis M MARR 11 JUN 1787 Mary Cooper Wit: John Lydall, Jno Fox
                                      William Wikes M MARR 17 FEB 1812 Hannah Lydall Wit: John Lydall, Jos Wright

                                      nothing of any use searching LYDE
                                      Elaine

                                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                      • #20
                                        I meant the only other marriage for a John is 1811
                                        Elaine

                                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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