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kylejustin
13-04-13, 03:49
to be released hopefully in time for the centenary of the great war:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/830.htm

herky
13-04-13, 12:26
Thanks for info - I will look out for these being released.

kylejustin
13-04-13, 15:36
the archives say these are the most sought after records, and i have to say they could be quite interesting.

lennon2011
13-04-13, 15:39
Looks quite interesting. I now need to try and work out the ones that I found yesterday.

AntonyM
13-04-13, 15:58
They are fantastically interesting - I hope they have digitised all the extra documents you often find filed with them (maps, operation orders, casualty lists, battalion histories etc.)

You do need to know what battalion (or unit) the person you are researching was in (and when) to use them - if you know that, and the diary is a good one, you can track their war virtually every day.

annswabey
13-04-13, 16:00
As Anthony says, they are really interesting. I believe they have digitised all documents within them.

Of course, quite a few are available for download already at the National Archives site.

lennon2011
13-04-13, 16:00
They are fantastically interesting - I hope they have digitised all the extra documents you often find filed with them (maps, operation orders, casualty lists, battalion histories etc.)

You do need to know what battalion the person you are researching was in (and when) to use them - if you know that, and the diary is a good one, you can track their war virtually every day.

Good luck attempting to figure out mine then, he joined up in 1894 and never stayed in the same battalion or regiment, he kept moving about a lot. It's only because the pages have his name on them that I know he's my person.

AntonyM
13-04-13, 16:08
If you have his service record his battalion should be listed ..... if there is no service record, and you have a medal roll index card, you can still use the information on that to discover the battalion he was in (at least when the medals were handed out).

lennon2011
13-04-13, 16:18
Does 27 images count as a record or card? :P

AntonyM
13-04-13, 16:32
Medal index cards are exactly that - a two sided card.

If you have 27 pages that will be a service , or pension, record.

lennon2011
13-04-13, 16:33
It's a pension, it says on the Ancestry file.

Elaine ..Spain
13-04-13, 16:34
Lennon, your 27 pages for Hugh were from the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 (WO364 TNA reference)

annswabey
13-04-13, 16:35
The 27 images will be his service record and his regiments and battalions, with dates he was with them may well be included. If he served overseas he should have a separate Medal card (on Ancestry) which will give the medals he was entitled to. The references against the medals on the Medal card refer to the Medal Rolls (not online, but at the National Archives) which give a man's battalion(s)

lennon2011
13-04-13, 16:43
Now I just need to try and read the majority of it. I can make out his name, features, age, and the words Egypt & Malaria.

lennon2011
13-04-13, 17:02
I've added a new album to skydrive in anyone would like a look at the records for themselves.

Tilly Mint
13-04-13, 17:02
I'll look forward to these being released :good:

Thanks, Kyle :)

lennon2011
13-04-13, 18:54
My War guy sent me Hugh's medal card :clap:

He certainly does seem to have all the details for members of my family.. :confused:

annswabey
13-04-13, 19:24
Which medals did he get? Just Victory and British?

lennon2011
13-04-13, 19:28
Just Victory. Can I upload the image here? If not I'll send a link to it.

annswabey
13-04-13, 19:34
You can send a link or tell me his name, number and regiment and I'll look it up!

lennon2011
13-04-13, 19:36
Hugh served as a gunner with the Royal Gun Artillery (RGA), the private with the Labour Corps (LC) and then private with the Royal Defence Corp (RDC). His service numbers were 6135 (RGA), 422529 (LC) and 89370 (RDC).

He received the Victory and British Medals but not the 1914 Star or 1914/15 Star so he was not in France or Flanders in 1914 or 1915


Sorry I got myself wrong..

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annswabey
13-04-13, 19:48
It's OK - I assumed he had both medals!

RGA is Royal GARRISON Artillery, by the way

lennon2011
13-04-13, 19:57
I thought that was wrong but I didn't want to assume it was and still have been wrong- if you know what I mean?

SueNSW
13-04-13, 20:17
As I said on Lennon's original thread about Hugh, Ann - "He had a long and well travelled career in the army - they are an interesting set of records that give a lot of information. You are very lucky to be able to find such a great source"

Perhaps you have the time that I don't at the moment to interpret them briefly for her...........I found they were clearer to read than many I've seen but I guess if you don't know too much about the military and haven't looked at this sort of record before it can be pretty challenging

lennon2011
13-04-13, 20:19
It's extremely annoying Sue, I currently have my usual War/Stockton man going through them now and then I was thinking of posting his info on the origonal thread, compare details?

annswabey
13-04-13, 20:22
Thanks Sue

I'll have a look at them.

Must look at that original thread! Yes, would be useful to post his findings, please.

lennon2011
13-04-13, 20:27
Will do, I'm not sure if he's doing ALL the pages though, I had to tell him which ones I could understand which were many I'm afraid..
2126
2125
2128- brother Patrick as Next of Kin. (It's him in the Avatar!!! Thought I might as well give you a hint as to who your reading about. )
2132- I can make out Malaria & Egypt
2135- Malaria hospital report.
2138- Disability.
2147- Medical
2149- Medical
2150- Medical

annswabey
13-04-13, 20:59
Have made brief notes - haven't got time to type it all out. Will email it to you. Let me know if any queries!

lennon2011
13-04-13, 21:01
Thank you Anne. I'll post the details from the War dude in the original Hugh's War thread.