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lennon2011
31-03-13, 12:40
Could this be George's twin Annie Phillips born in 1879, Stockton-on-tees?
Daughter of Robert & Hannah Cornforth?

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Elaine ..Spain
31-03-13, 12:46
Could well be.
There is an Annie Phillips born c 1879 Stockton (daughter of William & Rosena) showing on the 1891 census - you probably need to eliminate her as the details are close to your Annie.

lennon2011
31-03-13, 12:55
hmm I have the other Annie down as Anna. We could never found out who Rosena was at all. I did send a message to Stockton Roots who stated that the name was similar but that it wasn't Rosena.

lennon2011
31-03-13, 13:08
I've had another search and Anna has now become Annie- found a birth that didn't have George on it.
There's 5 marriages for an Annie Phillips, 3 of them have middle names and 2 don't. The last 1 in 1914 gives the strongest hit, George Evans.

margaretmarch
31-03-13, 15:30
hmm I have the other Annie down as Anna. We could never found out who Rosena was at all. I did send a message to Stockton Roots who stated that the name was similar but that it wasn't Rosena.

My grandmother was always referred to as Rosena and her eldest daughter was named the same, however when I got grandmother's birth record it shows she was Rose Anna and on at least one census was listed as Anna. Depends who was giving the information and for what purpose the information was requested.

You have to think laterally when doing family tree research!
Margaret

lennon2011
31-03-13, 15:47
We did find a marriage between a William Phillips & a Rose Tebbs. Recon it could be Rosena?

Janet in Yorkshire
31-03-13, 16:06
My gt-aunt May married as May Sarah and was always talked of as "Aunt May." Turned out her name wasn't May at all. She was registered and baptised Sarah Ann, after her mother, but as the child was born when "the May blossom was out," she was nicknamed May to distinguish her from her Mum.

margaretmarch
31-03-13, 16:14
My gt-aunt May married as May Sarah and was always talked of as "Aunt May." Turned out her name wasn't May at all. She was registered and baptised Sarah Ann, after her mother, but as the child was born when "the May blossom was out," she was nicknamed May to distinguish her from her Mum.

It'a not uncommon to be called something other than your registered name - my family has a tradition of using middle names instead of first names and we had two uncles known as Jack and Billy - 'Jack' was Lauriston Philip and 'Billy' was Charles Henry!! it seems someone visited the family at some point and said 'oh they look like our Jack and Billy' and that stuck.

Spent ages looking for them under the names I knew before cousins told me the truth.

Margaret

lennon2011
31-03-13, 16:26
lol, it's like my granddad. he had an uncle with one version of the name so his mother gave him the longer one after the uncle and it turned out not to be his name after all!

lennon2011
31-03-13, 17:31
Back to the original topic. I'm not getting anything on the second Annie after the 1891 census- born to William whereas the first one does bring up the census above so I honestly think it's the first Annie.

lennon2011
31-03-13, 20:28
So it turns out that the census DID relate to the first Annie, now I just need to figure out the terms, was she a Nun or Prison Inmate? Doing a Google search brings up a church so it may be a Nun.

Elaine ..Spain
31-03-13, 20:36
The name/description is given as Durham Co Penitentiary !

lennon2011
31-03-13, 20:41
Yeah but when I searched for that St Madeleine I got a church and the street came as a house and not a prison so I was unsure.

Elaine ..Spain
31-03-13, 20:42
If you are viewing the census image on Ancestry then click on the next page and you will see the address/desription.

lennon2011
31-03-13, 20:45
okies, cheers :D