Canadian 1911 census lookup request

[TrevorFranklin]

I have a family group, who went over from England to Canada in 1907 The problem I have is that some members of the family keep using different names. you should find William and Diana Butler, both born c 1877 in England, with children Kathleen (or Emma), Florence, Ellen (or Nelly) and mary. I think I have come across the link on Ancestry, but do not have worldwide access.

Name: Ellen Butler Father: William Butler Birth: date - England year Residence: 1911 - Toronto South, Ontario

[Elaine ..Spain]

Head of household on that seems to be William Butler born 1858 England, with wife Mary.
Household as follows:William Butler 53
Mary Butler 50
Samuel Butler 28
Agnes Butler 24
Vera Butler 22
Frederick B Butler 21
Thomas Butler 19
Ellen Butler 15
William Butler 12
Mathew Stethe
Jenny Bellis 31

- so presume it's not the right one.

I'll take another look for you. Do you have any ages for the children?

[TrevorFranklin]

Hi Elaine William was born C1877, Diana was born c1877. Children listed on the passenger list in 1907 were: Diana c1896, Emma c1898 (later uses Kathleen), Nelly c1900 ( I think this was Ellen), Florence 1904 and Mary 1906.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Not having much luck with this one at all Trevor. Do you know if they stayed in Canada or moved on?

Any marriages later in life for the children?

[TrevorFranklin]

They all stayed in Canada. Diana (the child) married a Blair, Kathleen married a North, Florence married a Poole (my line). All confirmed in a chapter of the book 'Prarie Winds' I have not found marriages for Mary or Ellen (Nellie), or deaths for William and Diana, but it would be in the Saskatchewan area. That's why I wanted the census, to check where they first settled and to check the names that were being used.

[Elaine ..Spain]

I can't seem to find any of them I am afraid.

[Karamazov]

I can't seem to find any of them I am afraid.

I've trawled extensively via http://automatedgenealogy.com/census...+all+provinces
and like Elaine I can't find any of them...

[TrevorFranklin]

Ancestry has just come up with a 'hint' on my FTM database showing a Katherine Butler, but it shows a 1916 census? I did not know there were two census in a short space of time 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta Record

[Elaine ..Spain]

Available on Family Search, Trevor. Only covers 3 states.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1529118

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMPM-841

[TrevorFranklin]

Not the Kathleen I was looking for, but the record is soooooooooooooooo full of coincidences. My Kathleen married William North 1914 in Saskatchewan, she had a sister Diana, So the 1916 record has a lot of names that match, but the marriages and ages do not, even though they are in the same provence. Don't genealogy give yo9u a headache at times.

[Prairie Chicken]

Where in Saskatchewan? Perhaps I can help.

[vera2013]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...13+41+42+53+54

This looks like Ellen (Nelly's) bc. Same address as marriage cert. Maybe he was in the Canadian Army in 1911 or was there a different occupation on the 1907 immigration record (Can't find it on Ancestry).

Vera

[Elaine]

looking at signatures, think this is him

First name(s): William
Last name: BUTLER
Calculated year of birth: 1878
Parish of birth: St Pancras
Town of birth: London
County of birth: Middlesex
Age at attestation: 18 years 10 months
Attestation date: 7 April 1896
Attestation corps: 7TH BATTALION KINGS ROYAL RIFLES REGIMENT
Attestation soldier number: 4664
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps: King's Royal Rifle Corps - 60th Rifles
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO96 / 953 / 165

he was posted 1900-02

[TrevorFranklin]

Hi Elaine, how did you find this record?
Many thanks
Trev

looking at signatures, think this is him

First name(s): William
Last name: BUTLER
Calculated year of birth: 1878
Parish of birth: St Pancras
Town of birth: London
County of birth: Middlesex
Age at attestation: 18 years 10 months
Attestation date: 7 April 1896
Attestation corps: 7TH BATTALION KINGS ROYAL RIFLES REGIMENT
Attestation soldier number: 4664
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps: King's Royal Rifle Corps - 60th Rifles
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO96 / 953 / 165

he was posted 1900-02

[TrevorFranklin]

Following the records found by Vera and Elaine, it has closed one of my questions from the 1901 census I came across.

Nellie appeared on the 1901 census with her mother and siblings, but was not on the passenger list when they emigrated.
Because of Vera finding the correct name, I see that she dies at the end of 1901, which answered that question.

The military record of William also answers the question I had as to why he was not on the 1901 census with his family.

Thanks all ;D, I have a cousin in Canada who has now had a question she wrestled with for a long time answered for her.

[Elaine]

Looked on A* for the marriage and searched the regiments and matched a birth F** military records, signature on front sheet of military record

[TrevorFranklin]

When I do a search on F**
Even if I use the service number you supplied, it states that there are no matches

Looked on A* for the marriage and searched the regiments and matched a birth F** military records, signature on front sheet of military record

[Elaine]

This is on the first search page if you put in William Butler 1877 England

BUTLER William 1878 London, Middlesex King's Royal Rifle Corps - 60th Rifles WO96 Militia

5th from bottom