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Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 16:32
I am trying to tie up a couple of loose ends and have one Daughter who's Marriage I cannot find.
The father James Bastian RICHARDS died in 1913 and left his estate to his children including a Margaret Bergmann ,so I assumed she married a Bergmann ??
I cannot find her Birth or anything ? except I did find a Death for a Margaret Bergmann 8 Nov 1935 in South Australia.
She would have been born between the 1859 and 1870 Parents James Bastian Richards and Margaret Richards nee Green
Thanks

Forgot to say Margaret and one of her Sisters Laura both signed as witness to the will in 1904 under the surname Richards ,so she must have married after this date ?

liz hutchison
23-03-13, 17:47
Margaret Richards was born in Stamford,Victoria to James Richards and Margaret Green 1872

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 17:51
hi Liz can I ask where you found that thanks

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 17:54
just realised thats the same year her mother died so maybe she died having her? thanks Liz appreciated.

liz hutchison
23-03-13, 17:58
On Ancestry also there is a James bastian Richards Junior in the Aussie Census, Lizzy

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 18:00
thanks again Liz I do have some of the australian census records am now going to see if I can get Margarets Mothers death cert online thanks .

Elaine
23-03-13, 20:22
Just to add
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Margaret Richards
Father's Name: James Richards
Mother's name: Margaret Green
Birth Place: Stamford, Victoria
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 4468

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 20:39
Thanks for that Elaine I was looking in the wrong area of Australia .

Elaine
23-03-13, 20:42
Have found a death in Trove here

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/11853663?searchTerm=margaret%20bergmann&searchLimits=l-decade=193|||l-year=1935

married to W Bergman, affectionate sister of Evelyn, Annie ( Mrs Lewis) Laura, James B., William and Herbert

Elaine
23-03-13, 20:47
Have you got this one?

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Margaret Richards
Death Place: Victoria
Age: 31
Father's Name: Green Charles
Mother's name: Mary
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 2325
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 20:50
that death is her mother Elaine thanks, and thanks a bunch for that newspaper article I was going through the trove newspapers but didn't find that, it helps a lot thanks again:good:

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 20:57
just looked at that Elaine it seems to say Annie was a stepdaughter ?? is that what you can see ? thanks

Elaine
23-03-13, 21:08
Yes, just how I read it, this caught my eye because of the middle name but a bit further up country

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Evelyn Mary Bergmann
Father's Name: Frederick William Bergmann
Mother's name: Margaret
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Place: Port Frederick, Tasmania
Registration number: 2106

Elaine
23-03-13, 21:14
From that name

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Annie Munro Bergman
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1892
Father's Name: Frederick Wm Bergman
Mother's name: Barbara Jane Moir
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Place: Launceston, Tasmania
Registration number: 412

and Barabara Jane dies 1892, but cant' find a Richards/Bergmann marriage

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 21:17
ah that makes sense ,thanks very much Elaine you have been a great help

Elaine
23-03-13, 21:24
There's a death notice here for a Frederick William, wife Margaret 1824 South Burnie, Tasmania. No other family mentioned

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 21:31
hi again and thanks for that ,I just found a marriage for a Frederick William Bergman and a Margaret Mary Fegan in 1892 Philadelphia ? so maybe she had married before ?

liz hutchison
23-03-13, 22:29
Just had a look at Tasmania Archives and found a few Wills including Frederick's worth a look, Lizzy

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 23:01
thanks Liz I will have a go at that

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 23:08
can you give me a link to that site please Liz I dont seem able to find it

Val wish Id never started
23-03-13, 23:49
found them now must say they make interesting reading especially Margarets tells me her childrens names.

liz hutchison
24-03-13, 04:41
Just put in Tasmania Achives and look at Wills his name comes up and you can read it, Lizzy

Val wish Id never started
24-03-13, 13:19
found it last night thanks Liz but am not too sure I got the right Margarets ?which means I have the wrong Margarets death.