1851 Census

[ewen]

Would anyone be kind enough please to post details of the household where these 2 boys were living?

Both names as William Davis one was born 1829 and the other 1831. They were living in the registration/parish district of Brentford Middlesex.

Many thanks
Ewen

[Frazzled]

1851 Butts, New Brentford
Piece 1699, Folio 10, Page 12

DAVIS, Thomas 1799, Carpenter, Isleworth
DAVIS, Elizabeth 1802, Blackfriars
DAVIS, William 1829, Carpenter, Brentford
DAVIS, Sarah 1834, Brentford
DAVIS, George 1841, Brentford
BERRY, Lettetia 1831, Brentford

[loltel]

william 1829

living at BUTTS, brentford

thomas 1799 carpenter born isleworth
elizabeth 1802 carpenters wife born blackfriars
william 1829 carpenter born brentford
sarah 1834 at home born "
george 1841 scholar born "
leyitia berry 1831 dressmaker " " visitor

[Frazzled]

1851 New Brentford
Piece 1699, Folio 37m Page 23

WILLIAMS, Alfred 1816 Draper, Brentford,
WILLIAMS, Marian 1831, Bishops Castle, Shropshire
WILLIAMS, Benjamin Brother 1827 Draper, Brentford
PEARCE, William 1808 Draper Assistant, Cardiganshire
SNOW, Edward 1820 Draper Assistant, Ashford, Leicestershire
JONES, Ellis Owen 1827 Draper Assistant, Carnarvonshire
COUTTER, John 1829 Draper Assistant, Lowick, Northumberland
DAVIS, William 1831 Drapers Assistant, Carmarthenshire
GOOCH, Charles A 1835 Drapers Assistant Apprentice,Twickenham,
FISHER, Eliza 1819 House Servant, Oxford, Berkshire

[ewen]

Thank you all for your postings of the 1851 census.

The William Davis born 1829 is now confirmed, not the one I am looking for, by the way it does look like Lettitia Berry William's wife to be was living with the family.
The William Davis born in 1831 is also not the correct one I am looking for as this one was born in Carmarthenshire and not Middlesex.

Thanks again, it looks like it is back to the drawing board for this one.
Ewen

[Frazzled]

Have you any info to help us find the William Davis you are looking for?

[ewen]

Frazzled, he was 15 on the 1841 census living with Thomas Davis and his wife Susan (married in 1833) Thomas was aged 25 and Susan 26. They were living in Chiswick Middlesex. Thomas' dad was called William, Thomas had a brother a bit older than him named as William, if that helps. Can't seem to find any Williams that match with what I do know on the 1851 census.

Ewen

[Frazzled]

Sorry Ewen having trouble finding Thomas and Susan in the 1841 census, do you have an address or ref.

So if Thomas has an older brother William the William who is with Thomas and Susan in 1841 is not his brother (unless the older William died)

I think I have found Thomas and Susan in 1851, is Thomas' father William living with them?

[ewen]

Thanks for the reply Frazzled, the reference for the 1841 census, if you didn't find it is - 1841 census (HO 107 689/3) Chiswick Middlesex.

I have a baptism of a William Davis born 6 January 1810, baptised Chiswick Church son of William and Elizabeth. I always thought that the William Davis on the 1841 census was a son of Thomas but it looks like Thomas would be too young to be William's dad.

I have a baptism of a John Thomas Davis (note John Davis as the first name) son of William and Elizabeth at Chiswick Church in 1814, born 1814.

Do you think you could post details please of the census information you have from the 1851 census with Thomas and Susan?

Thank you
Ewen

[Darksecretz]

you have to be really careful when looking at the 1841 census, it does not give relationships, and also the ages of anyone over the age of 15 were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years. For example, someone who was actually 24 years would have their age listed as 20, and someone who was actually 27 years old would have their age listed as 25.

[Darksecretz]

1841 census (HO 107 689/3) Chiswick Middlesex

could you tell me please which numbers are what is 689 the folio? or the piece number?

failing that do you have a link for ancestry, [I guess you use FMP?]

[loltel]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8978&iid=MDXHO107_688_689-0599&fn=Thomas&ln=Davies&st=r&ssrc=&pid=7535699

think its this one julie

[Darksecretz]

could you tell me please which numbers are what is 689 the folio? or the piece number?

failing that do you have a link for ancestry, [I guess you use FMP?]

don't worry about it, I have found it on ancestry..

[Darksecretz]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=7535699

think its this one julie

ta Lorraine

[Darksecretz]

here you go Ewen

1851: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...v=try&h=521303
Class: HO107; Piece: 1553; Folio: 28; Page: 1; GSU roll: 174784-174785.

Thomas Davis 36
Susan Davis 29
Elizabeth Davis 6
Thomas Davis 4
Willam Davis 2
William Davis 75

living in MEOT,

[Darksecretz]

here you go Ewen

1851: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...v=try&h=521303
Class: HO107; Piece: 1553; Folio: 28; Page: 1; GSU roll: 174784-174785.

Thomas Davis 36
Susan Davis 29
Elizabeth Davis 6
Thomas Davis 4
Willam Davis 2
William Davis 75

living in MEOT,

it's looking like the William on here, that is listed as father [a lighterman, same occ as thomas] is in 1841 with Margaret and Thomas, Margaret is aged 60 on the 1841 but is looking like she died inbetween census.

William Davis 65
Margaret Davis 60
Thomas Davis 25

Class: HO107; Piece: 701; Book: 9; Civil Parish: St Anne Limehouse; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 6; Page: 5; Line: 1; GSU roll: 438814

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&h=7746101&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=8860

[loltel]

could it be this one

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=thomas&gsln=davi*&msgpn__ftp=Middlesex%2c+England&msgpn=5275&msgpn_PInfo=7-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5275%7c0%7c0%7c&gskw=chiswick&uidh=rh7&pcat=CEN_1850&h=3812114&recoff=5+6&db=uki1851&indiv=1&hovR=1

Thomas Davies 40
Maria Davies 39
Mary A Davies 15
Susannah Davies 13
Maria Davies 6
Henry Davies 2
Martha Miller 62


there is an entry in 1845 of a susan davis death

[loltel]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=35&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_r_f-35&gsfn=william&gsln=davi*&msbdy=1827&gskw=chiswick&cpxt=1&uidh=rh7&msbdp=5&cp=11

could be william in 1851



William Davis Age:19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Servant
Where born: Chiswick, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Kensington

Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district:

Kensington Town

Household schedule number: 467
Piece: 1468
Folio: 432
Page Number: 11



Household Members:

Charles Gade 36 master butcher
Mary Gade 38
George Cannor 24 foreman butcher
Henry Abby 22 ? butcher
William Davis 19 ? butcher
Sophia Bird 30 cook

[Darksecretz]

Ewen,

rather than go plucking things from here and there, could you give us the details that you do have please, [and what you are attempting to do] this will help us to confirm what we are looking for and hopefully get you on the right track :smilee:

[vera2013]

what about this one?

EDIT http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...ki1841&indiv=1

Thomas a Labourer



Vera