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26-02-13, 21:28
In 1881 John Keleher, 56,(transcribed as Kelcher) is living with his wife and five children in Kirkdale,Lancs.They were all born in County Cork.He is a Dock labourer,as are his two sons David and Edward.
In 1891 John is living with his wife and one daughter.He is now a Naval Pensioner,so at some time he must have gone to sea.How would he have qualified for this pension and will I be able to find any records relating to it?
Also in 1891 the only David I can find is now an Assurance Agent in Earlstown.How likely is this?He has a wife,Kate and a one year old daughter also Kate.I have not found the marriage or birth,nor can I find them on any other census.I did spot a death for a David Kelleher aged 84 in 1947 liverpool.
Edward is missing in 1891,but turns up again in 1901 and is a sailor and unmarried.He then disappears.
All ideas welcome.
Thank you in advance.

26-02-13, 21:59
Maggie marries Thomas Anderson and David is with her 1901

ANDERSON, Thomas William
KELEHER, Elizabeth
Liverpool Jul-Aug-Sep 1889

England, Marriages, 1538–1973
name: Thomas William Anderson
birth date: 1868
age: 21
spouse's name: Elizabeth Keleher
spouse's age: 21
event date: 01 Sep 1889
event place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
father's name: Henry Anderson
spouse's father's name: John Keleher
marital status: Single
spouse's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M00765-7

1901 RG13 piece 3458 folio 72 page 10
80, Olivia Street, Bootle Cum Linacre
Thomas W Anderson 32
Elizabeth Anderson 32
Elizabeth Anderson 11
Alice Anderson 7
Mary Anderson 4
Ann Anderson 6 Months
David Kelcher 34 Single Brother in law dock worker born Ireland

26-02-13, 22:07
Thank you so much Elaine.I knew about Elizabeth's marriage,so should have found it myself! He is not with them in 1911 though,nor with his sister Margaret (Armstrong).The third sister died in 1891(I think).

26-02-13, 22:25
Here's David sorted

Last name: KELEHER David
Calculated year of birth: 1864
Parish of birth: Bantry
Town of birth: Cork
County of birth: Cork
Age at attestation: 22 years 5 months
Attestation date: 24 June 1886
Attestation corps: North Staffordshire Regiment (The Prince of Wales's)
Attestation soldier number: 2061
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 3211 / 39
system origin: England-EASy
gs film number: 1656688
reference id: it 4, p 243, no 485
names John Mary and Edward, quite a bit of info on his military records
You will find him listed 1911 in the census now as overseas military

He was in South Africa 1891

26-02-13, 22:37
You are a genius,and a very kind one!Thank you so much.

26-02-13, 22:45
You are most welcome, have you got the census ref for Edward 1901, just started looking for him

26-02-13, 22:48
Got it as Ed with mother also

26-02-13, 22:57
Yes ,that's the one.119 Braemar St.

26-02-13, 23:07
Do you know his mother's maiden name

26-02-13, 23:11
Yes, the mother's name was Mary Callaghan.

26-02-13, 23:45
I can't find any records as you say and am thinking he is possibly at sea. There's a death abroad but the maiden name was Conners and Edward there was ship fastener, but a long shot. Bit stumped

26-02-13, 23:51
Thank you for trying,Elaine.