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Elaine
25-02-13, 21:28
I had put this to one side and was a little while ago, 'given' a maiden for Samuel's wife, no marriage sourced, Samuel was born in Barlestone and have him in census's when in England...for background

1851 Census HO107/ 2090 Folio: 405 Pg 26
With father and siblings

British Army Service Records 1760-1913
First name(s): Samuel
Last name: KIRKMAN
Private
Discharge corps: 1st Battn 5th Regt Of Fusiliers
Discharge soldier number: 216
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 2015 / 199
Intended place to live Rotherham, Yorkshire
Discharge 5th Decmber 1879

1881 Census RG11/ 4673 Folio: 11 Pg 16
Living at 107 School Street, Rotherham, Yorkshire
John Kirkman Head Mar Age 50 Occupation Coal Miner Born YORKS ROTHERHAM
Mary A. Kirkman Wife Age 62 Coal Miners Wife Born YORKS ROTHERHAM
Samuel Kirkman Brother U Age 42 Chelsea Pensioner Leicesters BAILESTONE

1891 Census RG12/ 2542 Folio: 61 Pg 15
Living at 5 Court D Jewry Wall St, St Nicholas, Leicester
Samuel Kirkman Head M Age 52 Occupation Wool Spinner Born BALSTON, Leicestershire
Sarah A. Kirkman Wife Age 40 Occupation Wool Spinner Born London
Georgiana Kirkman Daughter Age 5 Born Leicester


He apparently married Sarah Adams but I don't know where and should be betweeen 1881-1891, I don't want to buy a birth cert for Georgiana and don't think he went abroad, so looking for help as I don't know if it's her maiden name or if she was married before and dare I say....were these 2

and if anyone can find his mother 1851 and 1861, that would be a bonus

1841 Census HO107/ 592 Folio: 18 Pg 32
Thurmaston South
John Kirkman 35 Occupation Farmer
Mary Kirkman 35
Sarah Kirkman 14
Robert Kirkman 12
John Kirkman 10
Mary Kirkman 9
Georgeiana Kirkman 6
Samuel Kirkman 2
Trussell Kirkman 1
All born within the county
Mary is born in Bagworth

she marries again

Entry No.34, AUG 15, 1867, after Banns
JOHN PRATT, 75, wid. FWK, of BELGRAVE GATE, s. of EDWARD PRATT, FWK
MARY KIRKMAN, 65, wid. of BELGRAVE GATE, d. of WILLIAM SKERMER, FARMER
Wits: HENRY MALLET, JOHN JOHNSON

and I have her after that and burial at Bagworth
have his siblings also, the girls went to Australia

Val wish Id never started
25-02-13, 22:46
cannot find a marriage between Samuel Kirkman and Sarah A Adams as yet will keep looking

Elaine
25-02-13, 22:59
Thank you :)

Val wish Id never started
25-02-13, 23:19
still nothing sorry suppose you have his army records ?

Elaine
25-02-13, 23:30
Nothing to help except off to Rotherham

Janet in Yorkshire
25-02-13, 23:46
I can't find a marriage - sorry.

Had no luck with Sarah Adams born London c1851 in 1881 census either

Jay

Darksecretz
26-02-13, 00:08
I havent found Mary in 1851 but I have found John :(

1851: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&h=17678858&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=8978

I spose you have this already... :(

Elaine
26-02-13, 00:32
Yep, ref above!...but it is late :D

Janet in Yorkshire
26-02-13, 01:59
When the name Adams was "given " to you, do you know the thought process behind this?
(I'm wondering if we can attack this from another front, so to speak!)

Jay

Elaine
26-02-13, 08:54
Looking through last night, I have her birth details, it's from a one name study and have a PDF with it on...probably have to go back to the source again!

Darksecretz
26-02-13, 09:28
there is this:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1590&iid=31251_A006073-00203&fn=Mary&ln=Kirkman&st=r&ssrc=&pid=1513960

Elaine
26-02-13, 10:41
I thought it was probably her and there are some reports in the paper about a John Kirkman leaving his children nearly destitute while he was off elsewhere, eldest daughter had already left home

Janet in Yorkshire
26-02-13, 12:07
Can't access Julie's link - I only have the basic package.
Does it refer to Sarah Adams?

Jay

Chrissie Smiff
26-02-13, 12:49
If you mean that last link Jay, it's a Mary Kirkman aged 35 in prison in Leicester in 1844 for Larceny. Two convictions - 5 months and 1 month.

Darksecretz
26-02-13, 12:54
Can't access Julie's link - I only have the basic package.
Does it refer to Sarah Adams?

Jay

sorry Jay :( but Chrissie has explained it well :)

Janet in Yorkshire
26-02-13, 13:09
Thanks ladies - going out to lunch now :drink:, but will pop in later.

Jay