I've put a Research Request thread in the relevant bit of the forum (hoping for someone within range of the Herts RO to have a look at the St Mary's, Watford, marriage register, to pick up the remaining details - occupation, witnesses, and the like), but I wondered if anyone had any ideas for me about this, in the meantime.
A friend asked me if I'd see where her late husband's middle name, Hurworth, came from. Ultimately, we imagine it came from the placename in the north, but it's travelled a bit. I've tracked it back to his grandmother and great-grandfather...
b ???? 1861-62 [M-entry] 1864-65 [d-entry]; Bow, Middx 1863-64 [1891] 1866-67 [1901] 1864-65 [1911]
bap ????
1871 ?????
1881 ?????
m 21 Oct 1885 St Mary, Watford. John William WIGGS, 27, B; Watford; s/o Thomas WIGGS. & Elizabeth Hurworth HERBERT, 23, sp; Watford; d/o Joseph Hurworth HERBERT [1885q4; A'try transcription; M01354-7;M07305-6]
1891 RG12/107fo107p2: age 27; 24 Queens Rd, Watford
1901 RG13/1314fo119p21: Elizabeth WIGGS age 34 ; Sunnyview, Bushey Hall Rd
1911 RG14PN7694 RG78PN379 RD140 SD1 ED8 SN197: Elizabeth WIGGS age 46, m25, ch3-3-0; Sunnyview, Bushey Hall Rd
1911-1929: ... no info
d 20 Oct 1929 [E&WNPC]; 1929q4 age 64 Watford. Elizabeth M(sic) WIGGS (I'm guessing that this is a mistranscription)
Prob 24 Jun 1930: WIGGS Elizabeth of Newlyn Bushey hall-road Bushey Herts wife of John William WIGGS died 20 Oct 1929 Admin London 24 Jun to the said John William WIGGS farmer. Effects 3369 0s 9d. [E&WNPC]
I thought I'd found her, born in/near Bow, yesterday - but the one I found seems to have been claimed by another tree, very convincingly, on Ancestry. Besides, the father's name was Charles.
Then I thought I'd got her today:
1881RG11/696fo148p48: Elizabeth H HERBERT, 16; 44 James's Grove, Camberwell, with parents Joseph, and Jane E. But there's a registration for an Elizabeth Hannah HERBERT in Sheerness at about the right date, so I had to relinquish her, as well.
I just wonder whether the father on the marriage register is a real person, or just invented to disguise illegitimacy. Something just doesn't seem to add up. Of course, she could be horrendously mistranscribed in both the earlier censuses, and just may not have been registered - or baptised.
Christine
A friend asked me if I'd see where her late husband's middle name, Hurworth, came from. Ultimately, we imagine it came from the placename in the north, but it's travelled a bit. I've tracked it back to his grandmother and great-grandfather...
b ???? 1861-62 [M-entry] 1864-65 [d-entry]; Bow, Middx 1863-64 [1891] 1866-67 [1901] 1864-65 [1911]
bap ????
1871 ?????
1881 ?????
m 21 Oct 1885 St Mary, Watford. John William WIGGS, 27, B; Watford; s/o Thomas WIGGS. & Elizabeth Hurworth HERBERT, 23, sp; Watford; d/o Joseph Hurworth HERBERT [1885q4; A'try transcription; M01354-7;M07305-6]
1891 RG12/107fo107p2: age 27; 24 Queens Rd, Watford
1901 RG13/1314fo119p21: Elizabeth WIGGS age 34 ; Sunnyview, Bushey Hall Rd
1911 RG14PN7694 RG78PN379 RD140 SD1 ED8 SN197: Elizabeth WIGGS age 46, m25, ch3-3-0; Sunnyview, Bushey Hall Rd
1911-1929: ... no info
d 20 Oct 1929 [E&WNPC]; 1929q4 age 64 Watford. Elizabeth M(sic) WIGGS (I'm guessing that this is a mistranscription)
Prob 24 Jun 1930: WIGGS Elizabeth of Newlyn Bushey hall-road Bushey Herts wife of John William WIGGS died 20 Oct 1929 Admin London 24 Jun to the said John William WIGGS farmer. Effects 3369 0s 9d. [E&WNPC]
I thought I'd found her, born in/near Bow, yesterday - but the one I found seems to have been claimed by another tree, very convincingly, on Ancestry. Besides, the father's name was Charles.
Then I thought I'd got her today:
1881RG11/696fo148p48: Elizabeth H HERBERT, 16; 44 James's Grove, Camberwell, with parents Joseph, and Jane E. But there's a registration for an Elizabeth Hannah HERBERT in Sheerness at about the right date, so I had to relinquish her, as well.
I just wonder whether the father on the marriage register is a real person, or just invented to disguise illegitimacy. Something just doesn't seem to add up. Of course, she could be horrendously mistranscribed in both the earlier censuses, and just may not have been registered - or baptised.
Christine
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