Help please to find Florence's 1st marriage and before

[Gwyn in Kent]

Thank you Chrissie... you crept in there..

Any extra information might provide another clue, so Thank you for that.

So I wonder if her mother was Florence May too

Gwyn

[Chrissie Smiff]

That marriage is listed under both names but I suspect might be one and the same? Worth Checking in 1911.

p.s. The sons death was registered before his birth!

[Olde Crone Holden]

Maybe not that far fetched, Gwyn - DRAY could be a badly mistranscribed CRAV en.

If you see what I mean! I've seen worse manglings than that. The only thing wrong with it is that she seriously lied about her age if she married in 1904 - the minimum age for marriage was 12 for a girl, which would have made her born before 1892 and a marriage at 12 was very unlikely I think.

OC

[Gwyn in Kent]

Yes.. The age is way out.
I was looking for any Florence Marg* births or marriages and noticed that one, but will come back to this more alert, - hopefully, tomorrow I think.

Thank you for your help and thoughts.

Gwyn

[Gwyn in Kent]

We couldn't fathom this so the CRAVEN marriage certificate is on order.

[Gwyn in Kent]

CRAVEN =BELCHAMBER marriage has now arrived and as O.C. suspected this Florence appears to be illegitimate...no father named on certificate.

Florence Marguerita Craven a spinster age 19 married on 8th May 1912, so it looks very much as if this is the widow who later married Mr THOMAS.( if indeed she was a widow?)
I wonder what happened to George Henry BELLCHAMBER who was 21 when he married Florence ?......We haven't been able to find him yet.

[maudarby]

Hi Gwyn
Was there an address on the certificate for George Henry Bellchamber?
Moggie

PS What was his father's name & their occupations?

[Gwyn in Kent]

Moggie

Thank you for your interest... Here are the details.

8th May 1912 at Portsmouth Register Office by certificate:
George Henry Bellchamber, a bachelor, a green grocer age 21 of 49 Esslemont Road, Southsea... the son of George Henry Bellchamber a carpenter and joiner

Florence Marguerita Craven, a spinste,r age 19 of 152 Wingfield Street Landport. Fathers name and occupation not named

Witnessed by: Robert Turpin and the mark of Mary Smith
Signed: George Henry Bellchamber and Florence Marguerita Craven

I found George in 1911 when his father shows him as 17 !!

[Olde Crone Holden]

So the birth in post #6 above might be her? Age is spot on.

OC

[Gwyn in Kent]

It looks very probable, doesn't it?
Like you said, she just poshed-up her name, most likely.

Not found definite census matches for her though with her mother or family.