Gloucestershire Marriage

[Beanie]

Could anyone look up a marriage for me by the surname Smith and Harris. This is where iam stuck at,

John Smith b)1854?, Yeovil, Somerset. -m- Elizabeth Harris b)1851, Father: George Harris.

Children:
George Edward b)1876,Rodborough, Stroud, Kingstanley.
Emily Jane b)1880/81,Avening.
William b)1883,Avening.
Joseph b)1886,Forest green, Avening.
Nellie/nelly b)1890, cant find her birth at all.
plus 1 more dont know name on 1911 census 6 children born 1 died.


I have got a certificate that says (Alfred) John Smith married Elizabeth Harris with father being as George Harris, in 1875 Kingstanley. But everyone i have spoke to says his name wasnt Alfred. Also i can not find a Alfred John Smith born in Yeovil Somerset at his time of birth. I have no parents for John Smith.

I would be very greatfull if anyone could do a look up for me.

[Elaine ..Spain]

I have got a certificate that says (Alfred) John Smith married Elizabeth Harris with father being as George Harris, in 1875 Kingstanley. But everyone i have spoke to says his name wasnt Alfred.

Do they have any evidence to support this?

[Elaine ..Spain]

I have got a certificate that says (Alfred) John Smith married Elizabeth Harris with father being as George Harris, in 1875 Kingstanley.

This bit certainly seems to match as there is a George Harris living with John and Elizabeth in the 1891 census. What is George's occupation on the marriage certificate?

[Beanie]

On 2 of there childrens birth certificates i have it says father: John Smith. i have Georges and Josephs my great grandfather.

No they dont as far know. on the marriage certificate (Alfred)John is 21 b)1854. Elizabeth is 22 b)1853, birth year 2 years different.

[Elaine ..Spain]

You have put the name Alfred in brackets - does this actually appear on the marriage certificate? Does it give a name for the groom's father?
What is the occupation of Elizabeth's father on the MC?

What are the names of the witnesses - do they appear to be family members?

[Beanie]

I have had all the census forms for years now, Georges (Elizabeth dad) occupation is a labourer on the marriage cert.
Alfred is the name on the marriage cert aswell his father on there is Thomas Smith occupation Labourer.

Alfred John's age is 21 and Elizabeths age is 22.

I have 2 childrens birth certs George which just states John Smith and Joseph my greatgrandfather also just states John Smith.

[Beanie]

Sorry to repeat i didnt think my second post went on here.

Witnesses i have been through all of that the are W H Bailey and C Bailey, no connection as far as im aware.
I have hve been stuck on this one for about 9 years now and thought id come back to this tree. so any thing i would be greatfull. maybe i do have the wrong marriage that why i was hoping someone could help.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Not sure that you have got the wrong marriage - Elizabeth's half of it seems to fit nicely!
It really is so frustrating when you can't find the missing link - and with a name like Smith it's not easy!

[Beanie]

I keep coming back to it and when i cannot find anything i go back to other trees.

Hopefully someone can do a look up Thankyou for your help so far.

[scuda]

Nellie/nelly b)1890, cant find her birth at all.

I should think Nellie is Rose Ellen, b 1889, the mmn is Smith, according to the Glos BMD site: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd
This is a recent site with information that until recently was only available via the Glos FHS. Births give mother's maiden name, and you can have a good look at all the Harris/Smith marriages, too. The index is not complete for all districts, but Stroud seems to have plenty of info for the time you're looking at. Remember to tick the box to search for exact names, otherwise Smith will give Smithson, etc, as well.

scuda