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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy Dean View Post
    Cant contain the excitment, if pervious one was correct, Eliza daniels now has a brother!!!!

    Name JOANNES DANIEL
    Date of Birth N/R N/R 1886
    Address CABRA LANE
    Father JOANNES DANIEL
    Mother ELIZA MC CARMACK
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    Just checking on http://www.findmypast.ie/ as recommended by Janet earlier in the thread and there are interestingly a number of John Daniel/Daniels actually imprisoned 1900-1909, just wondering if Elizabeth Daniels would have stated on her marriage deceased rather than admit her father was actually in Prison? Just a thought
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    7, Woodfield Place, Dublin.jpg7, Woodfield Place, Dublin.jpg

    If the links worked 7, Woodfield Place, Dublin as it looks today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulc View Post
    Just checking on http://www.findmypast.ie/ as recommended by Janet earlier in the thread and there are interestingly a number of John Daniel/Daniels actually imprisoned 1900-1909, just wondering if Elizabeth Daniels would have stated on her marriage deceased rather than admit her father was actually in Prison? Just a thought
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulc View Post
    7, Woodfield Place, Dublin.jpg7, Woodfield Place, Dublin.jpg

    If the links worked 7, Woodfield Place, Dublin as it looks today
    Very possible she would have said something like that especially if her mother and father had separated over the criminal activity!

    The house looks great and great find ref the brother!
    Margaret

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    Sounds as though the brick wall is crumbling! Great news.

    Janet

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    Looks like the information is tying up all the loose ends now, received this information this morning from the Essex Regiment museum, which confirms John Edwin Barnes was based at the Curragh camp in Ireland.


    We have your man as born at Poplar, Middx, lived at Dublin and enlisted at Stratford.

    He is listed as going from the 2nd Battalion, then at the Curragh Camp, to join the 1st Battalion in the Regimental Magazine of April 1911.

    He then appears in the 1911 Census at Quetta with C Company of the 1st Bn as a single Private soldier aged 22.

    He landed at Gallipoli on the first day of the landing, thereby earning the 1914-15 Star, on which day he was killed.
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    Very good news so at last you are beginning to tie the ends together, which is when a brick wall does crumble! The Curragh was a very big camp and is worth googling for more information and possible pictures. It was going for some time as my own G Grandfather was at the Curragh where one of his children were born in 1865. The Curragh address is actually Co Kildare but not too far from Dublin and I think there is a racecourse there now!

    Keep digging! The hole may get bigger but you are going somewhere!

    Janet

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    Thanks Janet, yes seems like all of a sudden the wall is beginning to tumble or at least thats how it feels and can't thank both you and Margaret enough for your help inspiration and ideas. Will carry on googling about the Curragh, ironically many years ago we holidayed not far from there, but as is always the case, long before i started "treeing".

    I will keep you posted on progress, especially once i get the additional certificates and see where it takes us............thanks again Paul
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  10. #100
    Finally an update on this.............after what seemed an eternity well about eight weeks, i have finally received the certificate for Lizzie Daniels second marriage to Frederick H Ensum, which did indeed take place in Dublin on 16th October 1917 at The Church of St, James, South Dublin. Lizzie (Elizabeth Barnes) is listed as widow and Frederick soldier, which all ties in.

    The interesting facts are the two witnesses, namely, John J Daniels and Mary Josephine Daniels. Are they Lizzie's siblings??

    The downside is her father John was listed as deceased on her first marriage cert, but here he is listed just as a labourer, but of course could have been dead.

    So some progress, but also some gaps, was her father John dead or alive, was the John J Daniels, witness her brother or in fact her father. her address is given as 31, Sarah Place and his address is given as Dominic Street.






    Quote Originally Posted by Paulc View Post
    Thanks for the links Margaret will follow up on these.

    her second marriage was to a Frederick Henry Ensum who was born in Mile End, London in 1885 Frederick Henry Ensum served in the First World War as a private in the Essex Regiment No. 15507 and as a private in the Labour Corps No. 291916. He was awarded the Victory Medal, British Medal and the Star Medal. He first served in France on 30-08-1915. It was here he met John Edwin Barnes and promised to look after her should his friend not make it back from the War.

    I have searched numerous times for the second marriage between Elizabeth (Lizzie) Daniels or barnes to Frederick Ensum but with no luck and now presume she returned to Dublin for her second marriage or an actual marriage never took place although she took his name. Children from the second marriage as follows:

    Edith EJ Ensum born 1918 in Steyning the remaining children all born in Poplar.
    Doris M Ensum
    Eileen M Ensum
    Frederick W Ensum
    John L Ensum
    Ernest Ensum
    William Ensum
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