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They are called William and Fanny in 1891! It is the right people though as he is b Pimlico and she is b Newfoundland and the kids are the same!
RG12; Piece: 4399; Folio 118; Page 22
RG12; Piece: 4399; Folio 118; Page 22
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and the 1891 census which has him aged 35.Born in 1855 would match his age on the 1901 census.Comment
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Yup that ses like them Merry! Don'r knwo why they got his age wrong though do they do that much?Comment
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People quite often manipulated their age when getting married. Usually to appear over 21 if they were under, or to make the age gap less if there was a large gap between the bride and groom. Or a plain old mistake might have been made! Without being there to see what they were asked etc, it's hard to say. The only thing I might comment on is that this was a register office wedding and registrars were generally better at paperwork than some vicars so you might have expected they would have at least been asked the questions in a clear manner!Comment
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I'm not sure if you realise you can download the naval record from The National Archives? (assuming it's the right one!). The cost is £3.50Originally posted by BendyCowgirl View Post
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Originally posted by Merry Monty Montgomery View Post
no I didn't realise that. I'm kind of stuck now though...where to go from here...naval records definately best? How the heck do I find out his parents names? Well...parents details as I have the one name. I think perhaps I establish his actual place and year of birth firstoherwise I could be tracing someone else's naval record.Last edited by BendyCowgirl; 16-01-09, 17:52.Comment
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I can't find him in 1861/71 (haven't tried very hard with 1881 as I'm thinking he was at sea!). I've been concentrating on the forename John though and in 1891 he was William! I have also lost count of the number of times people got their father's first name wrong on their marriage cert! I realise this isn't helping! Maybe his father was John rather than William.......I'll keep looking!
Unless you get the naval record you will never know what is on it and it might be very interesting even if it doesn't help you progress straight away.Comment
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I just spoke to my uncle and he seems to think John's dad's name was indeed William. Also that John went by the name William rather than John. He remembers him as William (my uncle's pretty old and William lived until 1941 so that's how he remembers him!) Don't know if that helps at all.Comment
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It makes me want to go and eat my dinner...............:( :DComment
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OK go get dinner lol. Thanks for all your help on this much appreciated. I will get a naval record at some point I think but as I say I think I probably need to find out exactly when and where he was born first.Comment
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OK I think I found them on the 1891 census..they are in Cardiff by then, nothing before though:
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I found this. It seems to be them. Can't find them before this though.
copy and paste from ancestry removed - please read our copyright guidelinesLast edited by KiteRunner; 17-01-09, 18:16.Comment
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Yes, sorry, thought I'd found something new there. Oh yes...but yes that's them, so I'm still stuck lol. As I say John often went by the name William. Lavinia's grandmother I think was Francesca from something my uncle said to me a while back I just remembered and that's who she was named after...shortened it to Fanny.Last edited by BendyCowgirl; 17-01-09, 23:13.Comment
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