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    hi
    does anyone know if there is an index that links miners and their houses?
    i seem to remember reading somewhere that if they worked in the mines they usually had a house or cottage that was tied to it (probably wrong) but thought it worth asking



    Thanks Marie
    My avatar is my GGGF JJJW Hummerston
    Researching HUMMERSTON in LONDON...DAVIES in MONMOUTH....SHIRLOW/SHERLOW and MILLAR in BELFAST....MILLAR and MCGRATH in ADELAIDE SA

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    Don't know about the index, but do know my grandfather had a coal miner's house in Yorkshire in the mid-1900s.
    Stella passed away December 2014

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    • #3
      Cannot help with this but would be very interested to know the answer,
      Lynne

      Searching for Ford, Duffy, (Manchester and Ireland) Cree (Manchester, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire), Owen (Manchester), Humphreys (Manchester and Ireland), Egerton (Manchester and Cheshire), Cresswell (Manchester).

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      • #4
        I don't know if there is a definite answer to this or not, but it might be worth contacting the National Union of Mineworkers as they do have some mining records I believe

        The National Union of Mineworkers | The History of the NUM
        Barbara

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        • #5
          I would imagine any such lists would be with the Mine records, as in a list of their assets.

          Another way of finding out is to consult Rates Books, if you know the address. Rates were usually paid by the OWNER of the property, not the occupier, until fairly recent times.

          OC

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          • #6
            remember that street names have sometimes been changed too. There is one street within 200 yards of me that is now known as Park Terrace. While the pit was open it was known as Colliery Row.
            Barbara

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            • #7
              thanks
              where would i look for the rates?
              there is no info on the NUM site so will have to try another way

              Thanks again
              Marie
              My avatar is my GGGF JJJW Hummerston
              Researching HUMMERSTON in LONDON...DAVIES in MONMOUTH....SHIRLOW/SHERLOW and MILLAR in BELFAST....MILLAR and MCGRATH in ADELAIDE SA

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              • #8
                I know that my house was owned by the coal board until something daft like 1978 when it was sold to the then occupiers.. alot of colliery houses were actually sold on to local councils for something like £1.

                Also Barbara mentions the name change of the road... this also happened here when the council took over.
                Julie
                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                .......I find dead people

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                • #9
                  Rates Books won't be online.

                  Depending when, they will either be in the County Records Office, or still held by the rates department of the local council.

                  OC

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                  • #10
                    It doesn't answer the question, but this question reminded me that I came across this site the other day -
                    Mine exploration, exploring disused mines and quarries, mining history, photographs and information for explorers, historians and industrial archaeologists
                    Last edited by Muggins in Sussex; 02-01-09, 07:42.
                    Joan died in July 2020.

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                    • #11
                      Pre-nationalisation (?1947?), any houses would have been owned by the original colliery companies, of which there were huge numbers, most of them very small. I have the doubtful honour of having a couple of colliery owners in my tree.
                      Uncle John - Passed away March 2020

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Muggins in Sussex View Post
                        It doesn't answer the question, but this question reminded me that I came across this site the other day -
                        Mine exploration, exploring disused mines and quarries, mining history, photographs and information for explorers, historians and industrial archaeologists
                        That is very interesting, I have quite a few coal miners on mums side, I shall have a mooch, thanks.

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                        • #13
                          Mineworkers

                          Try this site for some social history, the reports contain a lot of names.

                          The Coal Mining History Resource Centre  

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Southwick View Post
                            Try this site for some social history, the reports contain a lot of names.

                            The Coal Mining History Resource Centre *

                            Excellent site!!! Thanks for the link Found one of my rellies in the accidents and disasters section.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Deb N View Post
                              Excellent site!!! Thanks for the link Found one of my rellies in the accidents and disasters section.
                              Hi Deb

                              Is it anyone I know? ;)

                              Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Southwick View Post
                                Try this site for some social history, the reports contain a lot of names.

                                The Coal Mining History Resource Centre *
                                Originally posted by Deb N View Post
                                Excellent site!!! Thanks for the link Found one of my rellies in the accidents and disasters section.
                                Thanks from me as well for that site.

                                Don't know if it is the same one Deb found, but I have found one of my gg uncles on there, T Colwood. He died when he was crushed by corves in inclined drift owing to breaking of a hook. He was (according to that site) 14 years old, but I think he was actually only 13.

                                Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Southwick View Post
                                  Try this site for some social history, the reports contain a lot of names.

                                  The Coal Mining History Resource Centre *
                                  Strange I was only looking at this site at the beginning of the week, knew that my granddad was injured in a mining accident and spent a year in hospitl before he died, could not find him on this site which I was idsappointed about, but I did find another relation that died in a mining accident.
                                  Rob

                                  https://handmadebooksbyrob.wixsite.com/website/
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                                  searching: Hunt, Parker, Beaumont, Horsfall, Redfearn, Barker Spratt and Sidwell

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                                  • #18
                                    The Coal Mining History Resource Centre *
                                    Tht's interesting. I put my g grandfathers name in and up came the information from the inquest I had researched about the accident that killed him in 1866. I had given the information to Durham Mining Museum website.
                                    Daphne

                                    Looking for Northey, Goodfellow, Jobes, Heal, Lilburn, Curry, Gay, Carpenter, Johns, Harris, Vigus from Cornwall, Somerset, Durham, Northumberland, Cumberland, USA, Australia.

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