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So, Trevor has Huntingdonshire blood after all!! lol
Bren if you are going to order the certs from the GRO (I think you will have to as they are all London), then everything you need is:
Marriages Mar 1875
McCARTIE John Marylebone Volume 1a page 917
Spouse Mary Curtis
Deaths Jun 1892
McCartie Mary aged 42 Fulham Volume 1a page 183
Marriages Jun 1894
McCartie John Fulham Volume 1a page 517
Spouse Mary Roche
You really should get the birth cert for one of the children to confirm the mum IS Mary Curtis, though it looks extremely probable.Last edited by Merry Monty Montgomery; 21-11-08, 16:56.
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Bren,,,,,hang on...!
This marriage:
Marriages Jun 1894
McCartie John Fulham Volume 1a page 517
Spouse Mary Roche
I don't know that's the right bride because they were both Mary!
Marriages Jun 1894
Hawthorne Mary Fulham 1a 517
McCartie John Fulham 1a 517
Roche Mary Fulham 1a 517
Warner Herbert John Fulham 1a 517
I didn't look properly the first time. You can order a cert with only the groom's name though, so that's what you should do! Sorry about that!
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No.
Mary Curtis was the wife from Huntingdonshire with whom he had his children. They married in 1875.
He married the other Mary in the 1890's - she was from Ireland and I don't know her surname - see my last post.
Both marriage certs should give you John's father's details, but not mother's.
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good morning all,i have looked through my my mccartie records,..last year dainna went southwick and found this for me,im now a little confused top one says margaret roche died aged 72 who do you think she was, burried in a mccartie grave , as we know he was married to 2 mary,s one dying young her name curtis,then he married we believe mary roche,elizebeth ann was his child.i also have found a richard thomas mccartie born 1899 volume 2a.page 231. he is in the same age brackets as the other children could he be one of there,s as i dont think he is on the 1901 census could he have died as a baby? brenda xxx
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my other one is as you know the holders,i have proof joseph and sarah gwinnell were my g great grandparents,i have all there children,im trying to come forward from them,i can start with one of them and i know 2emmigrated to canada as debbie,s hubby is a distant cousin from one and roy is a distant cousin from one of my great aunt.were all intrested in finding more living rellies,i know names cant be put on here if there living but could they be emailed private.i would like to find some nearer to home if you know what i mean.
first child is joseph william born 1852 married a mirriam 1874,he died 1896,she died 1911 both born westbury on severn,there children were
jseph w born 1874 east dean,sarah l 1876normington,mary e born hunslet,juletta born 1883 hunslet,john allen born 1887 hunslet,kate 1890 hunslet she married 1912 i have the name firth near her so whethe rits a place or hubbies name i dont know.brenda xxx
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Originally posted by brenmac View Posti also have found a richard thomas mccartie born 1899 volume 2a.page 231. he is in the same age brackets as the other children could he be one of there,s as i dont think he is on the 1901 census could he have died as a baby?KiteRunner
Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh" (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")
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Originally posted by brenmac View Posttop one says margaret roche died aged 72 who do you think she was, burried in a mccartie graveKiteRunner
Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh" (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")
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This is the reference for Margaret:
Deaths Jul-Sep 1929 Roche Margaret age 72 Steyning vol 2b p 321.
I suppose you already have the birth ref for Richard, but anyway:
Births Jul-Sep 1899 McCartie Richard Thomas, Croydon vol 2a p 231
And this is the reference for his death registration:
Deaths Jul-Sep 1899 McCartie Richard Thomas, age 0, Croydon vol 2a p 158.
If you want to order any of the certificates, this is the link to the GRO:
General Register Office (GRO) - Official information on births, marriages and deathsKiteRunner
Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh" (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")
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Here are the death registrations that fit with the typed letter you posted up earier:
Margaret Roche
1929 Q3 Steyning 2b 321 aged 72
Elizabeth A McCartie
1952 Q1 Worthing 5h 793 aged 69
John McCartie
1928 Q4 Steyning 2b 389 aged 80
I can't see the death reg for his second wife in Q1 1936. I wonder if they mis-read some part of the date from the gravestone?
I've put the GRO refs for the above, but if you would rather write to the local office, it's the same one for Steyning and Worthing:
The Register Office,
Centenary House,
Durrington Lane,
Worthing,
BN13 2QB.
They won't need the GRO references, but would want the dates from the gravestones and they would need to be told which reg district each death occurred in.
Tel: 01243 642122.
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Is the surname for the following Gwinnell?
first child is joseph william born 1852 married a mirriam 1874,he died 1896,she died 1911 both born westbury on severn,there children were
jseph w born 1874 east dean,sarah l 1876normington,mary e born hunslet,juletta born 1883 hunslet,john allen born 1887 hunslet,kate 1890 hunslet she married 1912 i have the name firth near her so whethe rits a place or hubbies name i dont know.brenda xxx
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