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  • #1

    Grace Line

    I have now got back the birth records of both my Father - Micheal George Grace and my Nan - Gertrude Lucy Grace (White at her death). On my Fathers records there is no record of his father (unknown) ,which is a shame. On my Nans birth record it has her mother and father as Herbert William Grace (Painter & Plumber) and mother as Annie Grace formaly Reeves. I do not know a lot about Annie apart from being born in Gloucestershire. Can anyone if possiable help me out?

    I think I might have found information regarding Herbert Grace via 1891 Census - which gives me a lead to follow up, but again any help would be welcome
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  • #2
    This appears to be the marriage of your grandparents.

    Marriages Dec 1907
    GRACE Herbert William
    REEVES Annie
    Dursley 6a 555

    You really need this certificate as it would give you the names of both father's and their occupations.
    Elaine







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    • #3
      This is probably Herbert in the 1901 census - his marriage certificate would help to confirm this.
      RG13; Piece: 2416; Folio: 42; Page: 8.

      Do you have access to Ancestry to look up the census image - if not I will give you a transcription.
      Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 28-10-08, 13:48.
      Elaine







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      • #4
        There is an Annie Reeves on the 1901 census living in the Dursley district - parents Charles and Jane - again the MC would help to confirm if this is the right one.

        RG13; Piece: 2416; Folio: 89; Page: 1.
        Elaine







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        • #5
          I do have Ancestry, so I will try and look it up. Charles & Jane could well be her parents. Thankyou for helping.

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          • #6
            I now have the marriage certificate of

            Marriages Dec 1907
            GRACE Herbert William
            REEVES Annie
            Dursley 6a 555.

            It states that Herbert Grace's father was Francis Arthur Grace (Shoemaker)
            and Annie Reeves's father was Charles Reeves (Farm Labouror) and both Herbert & Annie were 23 years old on there wedding day.
            Can anyone find Herberts and Annies birth or even death records I would be most greatful

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            • #7
              Do you know when/where Herbert and Annie were born?

              If they died after Freebmd's coverage then its a question of trawling all the quarters of the deaths indexes for every possible year.
              ~ with love from Little Nell~
              Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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              • #8
                This looks likely, as he married in Dursley:

                Herbert William Grace
                1884 Apr-May-Jun Dursley 6a Page:245
                ~ with love from Little Nell~
                Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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                • #9
                  From freeBMD

                  Births Jun 1884
                  Grace Herbert William
                  Dursley 6a 245

                  Births Jun 1883
                  REEVES Annie
                  Dursley 6a 243
                  Elaine







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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Little Nell View Post
                    Do you know when/where Herbert and Annie were born?

                    If they died after Freebmd's coverage then its a question of trawling all the quarters of the deaths indexes for every possible year.
                    On there marriage certificate they both lived in Dursley at the time of there wedding so I feel they must have been born there also.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post
                      From freeBMD

                      Births Jun 1884
                      Grace Herbert William
                      Dursley 6a 245

                      Births Jun 1883
                      REEVES Annie
                      Dursley 6a 243
                      These birth regs match up with 1901 census records:

                      Herbert W Grace b Dursley aged 17 son of Frances A Grace - Bootmaker

                      RG13; Piece: 2416; Folio: 42; Page: 8

                      and:

                      Annie Reeves b Cam Green aged 18 dau of Charles Reeves - Carter on Farm

                      RG13; Piece: 2416; Folio: 89; Page: 1

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                      • #12
                        It stated that Charles Reeves was a Carter on Farm, I expect that he was a farm labourer. But does any one know what a Carter would do?

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                        • #13
                          cart! ie transport things using a cart, probably pulled by a horse or two. The old aglab equivalent of a white van man!
                          ~ with love from Little Nell~
                          Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tivvyblue View Post
                            On there marriage certificate they both lived in Dursley at the time of there wedding so I feel they must have been born there also.
                            Dursley is the name of the registration district as well as the town. They could have been born somewhere in the vicinity. My ancestors came from Wotton-under-Edge which is in Dursley district.
                            Uncle John - Passed away March 2020

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Little Nell View Post
                              cart! ie transport things using a cart, probably pulled by a horse or two. The old aglab equivalent of a white van man!
                              There was a prewar transport company called Carter Paterson. The postwar equivalent was Pickfords.
                              Uncle John - Passed away March 2020

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Merry Monty Montgomery View Post
                                These birth regs match up with 1901 census records:

                                Herbert W Grace b Dursley aged 17 son of Frances A Grace - Bootmaker

                                RG13; Piece: 2416; Folio: 42; Page: 8

                                and:

                                Annie Reeves b Cam Green aged 18 dau of Charles Reeves - Carter on Farm

                                RG13; Piece: 2416; Folio: 89; Page: 1
                                I do believe that yes these are the correct details, they fit there wedding certificate that I now have. What is now the best way to go about finding when they would have passed away. I have no living relatives that can help me on this question.

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                                • #17
                                  Do you have the marriage cert for any of their children? You might get an indication of whether Herbert was alive at the marriage date. Other than that, it's a case of trawling the GRO indexes Q by Q. :o

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                                  • #18
                                    I have been looking but as of yet can not find any other children apart from Lucy Gertrude :o. Can anyone manage to find any other children of Herbert & Annie Grace? I would be most greatful

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by tivvyblue View Post
                                      I have been looking but as of yet can not find any other children apart from Lucy Gertrude :o. Can anyone manage to find any other children of Herbert & Annie Grace? I would be most greatful
                                      A basic search of the post 1911 births (where mmn is given) - ie entering surname as Grace and mmn as Reeves gives three births Q4 1912, Gertrude's and another in Q2 1921.

                                      There might be more siblings, maybe one more between the marriage and the addition of mmn on the indexes and possibly more not yet transcribed by FreeBMD. One option, other than buying birth certs might be to investigate the PR's for wherever they lived (do you have the birth cert for Gertrude, for place of birth?) to see if any baptisms for this family show up.

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                                      • #20
                                        I have also now done a basic search like you said and it comes up with a couple of possiable names - Florence & Mollie.

                                        On Gertrudes birth Cert it gives The Slade,Dursley as place of birth.
                                        Last edited by tivvyblue; 13-11-08, 18:31.

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