SHURMER - family bible

[julietmadddren]

I would love to return this bible to its family.
There are some marriages recorded in it - using the name SHURMER taking place around Oxford, in Bicester and St. Giles.
Earliest date is 1887.
Please get in touch if this means anything to you.
It is a large, hard backed illuminated bible so will be expensive to post.

[Christine in Herts]

That's very helpful, julietmadddren! I hope your bible finds a good home.

And Welcome to FTF!

Christine

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

My Mother-In- Laws mother was a Schurmer from Oxford,England, Her Father was Ralph Schurmer born 1858 and he was a Porter at a college in Oxford,he was married to Clarissa born 1859 they had 7 children between 1886 and 1901, My M-I-L who is now 90, is the child of Clarissa the younger born in 1895. I am not sure if this is the family you are seeking?

[Elaine ..Spain]

Welcome to the forum Victoria.
It does sound as if there is a possible connection there - will keep my fingers crossed for you! :)

Why not send Julia a PM (personal message) - just click on her name to the left of her post and you will see the message option. She should receive an email notifying her of your message, so can then sign into the forum to see your post.

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

Thanks, I sent her a PM and hope to hear from her soon

[julietmadddren]

Hello. Thanks for responding. Could you send the names of the 7 children. There may be one that matches the names in the bible

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

Schurmer Children
Ralph born 1886
Ernest 1893
Thomas 1894
Clarissa 1895
Mary 1898
Percival 1901
Arthur 1909 (adopted) They all lived at 7,Kingston road,Oxford.

I hope this helps, it may not be the same family although Shurmer is not a common name

[Christine in Herts]

You'd think that there'd be some kind of connection: FMP has a maximum of 303 incidences of the name in the 1911 (of which only 17† in Oxfordshire), and fewer in the previous years.

There are 1,384 births registered in the E&W index, and 3 overseas. None of the other figures goes into four digits.

Christine

† I think that should probably be 16: it looks as if Ralph, b ca 1858, Fairford, Glos, college porter, appears both at home and at the college.

[casalecci]

Hi julietmaddren

have just signed on to Family Tree and see my maiden name mentioned! My dad was Jack Empson Shurmer, born the youngest of five in Temple Guiting on 8th December 1912. I wonder if I have a connection to your bible?

Would love to hear from you
Regards
Pat

[julietmadddren]

It seems that I did not reply to you at the time - just back on today. None of your listed names appear in the Bible. The geographical area is right though - so if you find any more names let me know.

[julietmadddren]

Hi - thanks for contacting. Your father's name is not in the Bible. May be you have other family with the Shurmer surname?

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

Thanks for getting back to me, I think there are more Schurmers than I thought, there are quite a few in the Oxford and surrounding areas. I hope you get some luck. It's good of you to make the effoort

[casalecci]

Many thanks - the other members of his family were Alfred John- born 1903; Arther Percy - born 1905; Lillian Rose - born 1908 and Eric Geoffrey - born 1910

Strangely, I have noticed that in some family trees on various sites that my dad is not mentioned; I have contacted the owners of those trees to tell them about him.

Kind regards - and thanks for your efforts to reunite the Family Bible

Pat

[shurmer]

Hi, my family lived in that area. My grandmother was Vera Seary marries to Arthur Shurmer.

[Christine in Herts]

Hi, my family lived in that area. My grandmother was Vera Seary marries to Arthur Shurmer.

Welcome to FTF, shurmer!

The fact that the thread-initiator's name is in grey suggests that they haven't visited for some time. It may be worth sending a PM (personal message) - just click on the name, and choose from the drop-down menu that appears. If julietmaddren has the settings appropriately selected, then your PM will trigger an email alert to an external e-address.

Christine

[AShurmer]

I would love to return this bible to its family.
There are some marriages recorded in it - using the name SHURMER taking place around Oxford, in Bicester and St. Giles.
Earliest date is 1887.
Please get in touch if this means anything to you.
It is a large, hard backed illuminated bible so will be expensive to post.

I think that this is my great grand parents. Ralph married Clarissa in Steeple Barton in 1884
To my knowledge they had Frederick Heywood, Frank William, Herbert Moyston, Ralph, Ernest Ebborn, Thomas Arthur and Clarissa Emily.

My father is now 86 and his sister is 90 and she still lives in Bicester.

I would be delighted to either collect, I live in Kent or pay for the bible to be delivered.

My father has early dementia and this would mean so much to him, please do contact me

Anne

[AShurmer]

Just started using this site, Ralph and Clarissa are my great grand parents, I would welcome any information on the family and am very interested in the bible

thanks

[Elaine ..Spain]

Just started using this site, Ralph and Clarissa are my great grand parents, I would welcome any information on the family and am very interested in the bible

Welcome to the forum.
It might be a good idea to send Juliet a pm (personal message) in case she doesn't see your posting on here. If you go to the first post on this thread and click on her username to the left of her post you will see the option to send a message. Juliet will then receive an email notification that you are trying to make contact.

If you need any general help with your research then I would suggest you post some details in our Family History Research forum - click here (http://www.familytreeforum.com/forumdisplay.php/2-Family-History-Research) - where we have a very helpful group of members who may be able to point you in the right direction! :)

[Christine in Herts]

My Mother-In- Laws mother was a Schurmer from Oxford,England, Her Father was Ralph Schurmer born 1858 and he was a Porter at a college in Oxford,he was married to Clarissa born 1859 they had 7 children between 1886 and 1901, My M-I-L who is now 90, is the child of Clarissa the younger born in 1895. I am not sure if this is the family you are seeking?


Schurmer Children
Ralph born 1886
Ernest 1893
Thomas 1894
Clarissa 1895
Mary 1898
Percival 1901
Arthur 1909 (adopted) They all lived at 7,Kingston road,Oxford.

I hope this helps, it may not be the same family although Shurmer is not a common name


It seems that I did not reply to you at the time - just back on today. None of your listed names appear in the Bible. The geographical area is right though - so if you find any more names let me know.


Just started using this site, Ralph and Clarissa are my great grand parents, I would welcome any information on the family and am very interested in the bible

thanks

Hello Anne

From looking at the previous posts, it may not be Juliet and that bible with whom you have the connection, but with Victoria? Victoria's name, too, is greyed, suggesting she hasn't been on the site for a while - so a PM to her (as Elaine had suggested about Juliet) might be worthwhile?

Christine

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

Ralph and Clarissa Shurmer are my husbands Great Grandparents also, his Grandmother was Clarissa the younger.We visited Percy in St Neots years ago. I am on Facebook if you would like to keep in touch

[julietmadddren]

I am delighted that I have now found the family to whom this bible belongs. It has been returned to its proper home, to someone who's birth was recorded in its pages. A really happy ending to a story that began about 25 years ago when the bible found its way into my possession via a mixed bundle of items at an auction. My grateful thanks to Family Tree Forum for giving me the opportunity to be in touch with a lovely family and to solve the mystery from all those years ago.

[Night Owl]

What a great outcome. Well done to you for not giving up on your quest.

I dream of the day someone with as much tenacity and generosity contacts me :)

[Christine in Herts]

I echo Jackie's reply. ... a really great outcome.

Christine

[herky]

Well done all for for a great result.

[clematised]

Well Done for your generosity and perseverence but it would be nice to know which of the new members was the correct family from the replies here.

Edna

[Elaine ..Spain]

Edna, we did have a thank you message from the family member who has received the bible, but I think inadvertently it was sent to the admin email account rather than posted as a message on the forum for you all to see. I replied to the person and suggested he/she logged in to thank you personally, which hopefully they will do.

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

That's wonderful that you found the right Shurmers, it is great that you took the time and made the effort.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Anne (AShurmer) has asked me to post this message on her behalf ..


Dear all
We are the lucky family that Juliet and this forum helped. My father who will shortly be 88 and is just beginning to have trouble with his memory suddenly mentioned his childhood home. I just had one of the those moments when you desperately feel 'I have got to do everything I can', I logged onto Google typed in the family name and there was Juliet with her Bible. The Bible is quite unique and he remembered it immediately, most importantly the last entry his father wrote was about him. He has talked non-stop.
Thank you to all the people that did respond to Juliet because I also found that we have second cousins in America which we are delighted to have.

[Christine in Herts]

What a wonderful thing! I find my eyes filling up. Something like that is so very important when memory problems start to show up. That's brilliant - fantastic. Thanks to Anne for allowing you to share the message.

Christine

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

Anne (AShurmer) has asked me to post this message on her behalf ..

I'm so happy it was you!! It is great especially when it has meant so much to him. So I will pass this on to all your new cousins here,They are delighted as well

[casalecci]

So pleased for all concerned: tenacity paid off.

[Victoria Ware Vorlander]

I wish you the very best for taking the time to return this Bible to the rightful owners, I wish you and yours A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year. And for all the Shurmers wherever you all I wish you all you wish yourselves and More!!