Gosling Family Bible circa 1845

[Grandpa T]

I have recently come across a Family Bible that belonged to John and Elizabeth Gosling. They were married in London in 1845. It lists their childrens' names and death dates. If anyone has a tie to this family please contact me, I refuse to destroy the information but my wife and I are "downsizing" and I need the space that this huge book takes up.
Hope to hear from somebody.

[Christine in Herts]

If you don't find a proper home for it, you could consider taking digital photos of the info, and then putting the bible into a sale.

Christine

[margaretmarch]

I have recently come across a Family Bible that belonged to John and Elizabeth Gosling. They were married in London in 1845. It lists their childrens' names and death dates. If anyone has a tie to this family please contact me, I refuse to destroy the information but my wife and I are "downsizing" and I need the space that this huge book takes up.
Hope to hear from somebody.

Welcome to FTF.

Perhaps if you put up what information there is we could see if we could find someone around today who would be interested - not everyone uses this site. There may be a tree on ancestry or somewhere like that which includes the names you have. Did you look for anyone?
Margaret

[margaretmarch]

Looking on the 1851 census I can see several John and Elizabeth Gosling households. If you can give the children's names I would look to see which one it is.
Margaret

[Gwyn in Kent]

Is this the marriage?
Name: John Gosling Jr
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Thomas
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 May 1845
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: John Gosling
Spouse Father Name: Richard Thomas

Groom is a draper of Dover, Kent.His father is shown as a draper too.
Richard is a glazier on the marriage image on Ancestry.

Gwyn

[herky]

I have been having a wee look too, but without much success.
Grandpa T, do you have any other bits of info that could help locate the family? - always up for a challenge that may reunite a bit of its family history.

[ukfamilyhistory]

Hello any sign of an Alice Goslin/g and any link to Winchester??
So coincidental that the name came up in my researches today!
Good luck!

[clematised]

There are lots of Gosling researchers on rootschat I found one with a John Gosling London so sent him a pm to read this thread

hope thats ok

Edna

[Grandpa T]

Hi All:
Thanks for the interest shown. I did respond to margaretmarch with the information. (At least I thought I did, this is very new to me!)
Anyway, here goes again:
Info as follows:
Married in the Parish Church of St. Mary's, Lambeth, London --- John and Elizabeth Gosling on the 13th day of May 1845.
Children of this marriage: Mary born May 9th, 1846 - Emma born May 8, 1847--- Caroline born April 15, 1849 died May 20, 1861 age 11 years----Elizabeth born July 16, 1851 died December 18, 1852 age 1 year, 26 months (that's what is written in the book)---Anne born June 19, 1852 died September 18, 1852 age 3 months---John born August 19, 1853---Ellen born February 5, 1855 and William born March 2, 1856.
Father John: died April 29, 1863 age 42 years
Mother Elizabeth: died April 18, 1895 age 69 years.

Hopefully that will help everyone. Elizabeth received this Bible from John April 1852.
Gwyn in Kent: this could be the right marriage that you mentioned but I doubt his birth date at 1845 and marriage the same. Everything else fits.

[Breckland Jane]

This seems to be the family in 1861.

GOSLING, John Head Married M 40 1821 Farmer Of 32 Acres Employing 1 Men 1 Boy Newick Sussex
GOSLING, Elizabeth Wife Married F 35 1826 Chalford Gloucestershire
GOSLING, Mary Charlotte Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847 Dover Kent
GOSLING, Emma Daughter F 13 1848 Dover Kent
GOSLING, Caroline Daughter F 10 1851 Folkestone Kent
GOSLING, John Son M 8 1853 Ripley Sussex
GOSLING, Ellen Daughter F 6 1855 Ripley Sussex
GOSLING, William Rd Son M 5 1856 Ripley Sussex

Living at Newick Common, Sussex

[Breckland Jane]

This is interesting!

I believe I have found trees on mundai.com for the son William Richard. He appears to have emigated to Canada, married there and had five children. There are photos as well.

I don't have Ancestry at the moment but presumably the owners of these trees should be able to be contacted on that site.

[Grandpa T]

Seems you have discovered the correct family based on ages, etc. I have no other information other than a 1940 Obituaries section of a Victoria, BC newspaper. I suspect that whoever had the Bible at that time kept the paper because someone in the family had passed away. None of the names match but of course by 1940 names could have changed by marriages. Could have been a grandchild of John and Elizabeth....who knows.
I suspect that this Bible was picked up at an estate sale by my "Collector" ex daughter in law, for who knows what reason. I'd love to get it into the correct family hands! I have our Townsend family Bible and it has been of great assistance in my genealogical searches.

Thanks to everyone who is in the blog and working on this. I had just about given up.

Now all I have to do is find my maternal grandmother who was one of thousands of British Home Children. She ended up in Saskatchewan at the ripe old age of 5 years and was indicated as a "domestic" on the farm where she lived. I think this is a "Brick Wall".

[Grandpa T]

Can anyone who has a profile picture up tell me how to edit my profile to do that please? I have tried but obviously not correctly. Forgive the stupidity but I'm and "Old Guy" and I have the odd " Senior's Moment" :) Thanks.

[PhotoFamily]

Obviously, I don't have an avatar (profile picture), but I think you would take these steps:
Top line, on the right hand side, you probably have Welcome, Grandpa T. continuing on that line, you'll see Settings. Click on it.

Along the left side of the screen, you'll see: My Settings and underneath that, Edit Avatar. Click on it.

Under Custom Avatar click Custom Avatar button, then select browse from option 2. Find your photo.

Not sure that it will work (haven't done it), but pretty sure.

Awesome find on the bible. Wish it were mine!

[scuda]

There is an Ancestry World Tree for Richard William Gosling which gives his birth as 1861, Gorleston, Suffolk, BUT there is a post-em, correcting this to the details we have here. The poste-em was entered by Louise Everest in July last year. She says she has his marriage and birth certificates, so is probably fairly closely related - her email address is given on the post-em page.

scuda

[margaretmarch]

Hi All:
Thanks for the interest shown. I did respond to margaretmarch with the information. (At least I thought I did, this is very new to me!)
Anyway, here goes again:
Info as follows:
Married in the Parish Church of St. Mary's, Lambeth, London --- John and Elizabeth Gosling on the 13th day of May 1845.
Children of this marriage: Mary born May 9th, 1846 - Emma born May 8, 1847--- Caroline born April 15, 1849 died May 20, 1861 age 11 years----Elizabeth born July 16, 1851 died December 18, 1852 age 1 year, 26 months (that's what is written in the book)---Anne born June 19, 1852 died September 18, 1852 age 3 months---John born August 19, 1853---Ellen born February 5, 1855 and William born March 2, 1856.
Father John: died April 29, 1863 age 42 years
Mother Elizabeth: died April 18, 1895 age 69 years.

Hopefully that will help everyone. Elizabeth received this Bible from John April 1852.
Gwyn in Kent: this could be the right marriage that you mentioned but I doubt his birth date at 1845 and marriage the same. Everything else fits.

Yes, you did reply by PM, but I have been away for the weekend and didn't manage to post the information on here for all to see - sorry!
Margaret

[margaretmarch]

There is an Ancestry World Tree for Richard William Gosling which gives his birth as 1861, Gorleston, Suffolk, BUT there is a post-em, correcting this to the details we have here. The poste-em was entered by Louise Everest in July last year. She says she has his marriage and birth certificates, so is probably fairly closely related - her email address is given on the post-em page.

scuda

Scuda - is it worth sending her a link to this thread so she can see what we have so far?
Margaret

[scuda]

Scuda - is it worth sending her a link to this thread so she can see what we have so far?


Yes, Margaret, I'll send her the link.

scuda

[clematised]

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/findfamily.php?name=Gosling

This has a whole lot of Gosling death info and a good site to check out your family names too

Edna

[scuda]

Louise has emailed me to say she has now registered here and is waiting for her confirmation email in order to post. Definitely the right family.

scuda

[Breckland Jane]

Well done Scuda.

[margaretmarch]

Louise has emailed me to say she has now registered here and is waiting for her confirmation email in order to post. Definitely the right family.

scuda

Brilliant work Scuda!!

[scuda]

Thanks Jane and Margaret - you're making me blush!

scuda

[scuda]

Can someone help Louise please. She has emailed to say she can log on but can't post.

scuda

[Sunflower]

This is my husband's family!
William Richard Gosling - born 2 Mar 1856, Guildford, Ripley, Surrey, England; Died 4 Jun 1920, Nelson, British Columbia, Canada
Parents: John Gosling & Elizabeth Thomas - John's father was John and Elizabeth's father was Richard.
John & Elizabeth married 13 May 1845, Saint Mary, Lambeth, Surrey - John Gosling Jr., full age, bachelor, draper, residence at time of marriage - Dover, Kent; father John Gosling occupation draper.
Elizabeth Thomas, full age, spinster, residence at time of marriage Lansdowne Terrace, father Richard Thomas, glazier. witnesses: John Thomas & Louisa Gosling.
Children: Mary, Emma, Caroline, Elizabeth, John, Ellen, William Richard.
William Richard Gosling came to Canada and settled in Williamsburg, Ontario - he worked as a butcher - for which he had trained in England.
He married 21 Nov 1877 Martha Casselman. They later moved to Saskatchewan and obtained homestead land. Their childre: Elizabeth, Rhoda, John, Mary, Nora & James. Martha died 6 May 1906 and is buried in Moosejaw, Sask. Of these children, Mary married Asa Willsie in 1905 - one of their 15 children was Mary, who married Charles Smart; one of their 6 children is James, who is my husband.
William moved to Victoria B.C. and married Annie Elizabeth Rendall - they had one child, George Gosling.
I do have marriage certificates, death registrations and a small family snapshot of William, Martha & their children.
The Bible would be a very welcome addition to our book shelf. My husband, Jim is presently battling lung cancer - he is doing well and the prognosis is "potentially curable" - he hasn't been able to go fishing and TV is boring. Getting a nudge back into family history is a good thing! I do the research but he loves to "read all about it!"
Louise Everest
PS I kept my name when Jim & I got together - so we are Jim Smart & Louise Everest - just in case you're wondering!

[scuda]

Ah, problem solved, I see Louise is here - welcome to FTF

scuda

[margaretmarch]

Sunflower, welcome to FTF and maybe you'll stay a while and we can help with any of your brick walls!

You might like to send GrandpaT a private message(PM) to tell him you are here - do this by clicking on his name at the beginning of this thread, he is in Canada too so it shouldn't cost too much to get the bible shipped to you.

PMs are passed trough on emails so it might prompt GrandpaT to come and see what you have said.
Margaret

[Grandpa T]

If this posted the first time and it is up again...sorry about that, I'm still struggling with treads/postings, etc. I'll catch on eventually (I hope)

Wow! You folks are GREAT! Thanks from me and I'm sure from Sunflower as now we both have a connection for the Bible. Sunflower, where are you in Canada? I'm here in Victoria and we are planning a trip back to Moose Jaw (my and Linda's home town by the way) in July of 2012 for a Cottingham family reunion in Saskatoon. I could take pictures of your Martha's grave if you wish. My brother in law in Moose Jaw does a lot of work with the graves registration section at the city hall and could look up additional information if you so wish. He's the one that got me started in this Genealogy thing...I still have not decided if it was a blessing or a curse! If you have need of searching here in Victoria, please tell me. I'm really excited about finding you as I absolutely refused to just throw this book away and destroy someone's chance of a historical connection. Please contact me by this thread or by personal e-mail. I am looking forward to working with you on this. This Bible weighs about 20 pounds so I guess the only practical way of shipping it would be by Greyhound bus.
Again....thanks everyone!
Now back to my Townsend/Cottingham/Tewksbury digging :).
If anyone does need research here in BC please let me know.

[Grandpa T]

PhotoFamily...Thanks for your help. As you can see your advice worked! Sorry I can't send you the Bible even though you wish you could have it...it is going to Sunflower.
Maybe next time :).
Have a great day.

[clematised]

A good result Grandpa T and well done to scuda a job well done!!!

Edna

[Grandpa T]

Sunflower: I evidently have something turned on that will not allow your PM through on my regular e-mail address. Please contact me at email address removed

Thanks...sorry about that.email

[Sunflower]

Thanks to everyone - Grandpa T has been contacted! Thanks Grandpa T for hanging on to that book - I will share copies of the family pages with a great number of cousins!
I will be around - and hopefully can help solve "brick walls" as well.
Families I am researching: Roll, Trotter, Everest, Holford, Hill and many others, in England. Hunder, Dibble, Gleason, in the USA and all of these in Canada - from sea to sea. I have done some research in Saskatchewan and may be able to help a bit.
I have been researching for 25 years and have made a lot of trips to Salt Lake City to read films and fiche - the internet is much easier, but SLC is a great place to go!
Sunflower

[Elaine ..Spain]

Sorry Grandpa T but I have had to remove your email address from the previous post. It is not something we recommend on an open forum. If you click on Sunflower's name, to the left of any of her posts, you will find an option to send her a private message. Click on that and send your email address to her that way.
When you send such a private message Sunflower will receive notification of it via her email address. When responding to private messages you must log into the forum.

Once you have exchanged email addresses then you can communicate with each other away from Family Tree Forum, should you wish!

[Grandpa T]

Sunflower I just now spoke to my brother in law in Moose Jaw and looked at the available cemetery records. Martha is not shown but he told me she may be in the old Moose Jaw Cemetery for which there is no internet record as yet. He will look up the records the next time he goes in and let me know what he finds. They may have had a family plot of a number of graves. He said he would also look up the Homestead records to see if he can get any information on it's location, size, etc. Hope this helps.
Don't forget to e-mail me. I'd love to chat.

[PhotoFamily]

PhotoFamily...Thanks for your help. As you can see your advice worked! Sorry I can't send you the Bible even though you wish you could have it...it is going to Sunflower.
Maybe next time :).
Have a great day.

Well, I wish it were mine - for the MITCHELLS! What a great blessing you've provided to sunflower;D

[Grandpa T]

Once again, thanks to all of you who researched, commented and cheered us on. The Gosling Family Bible (over 140 years old) is soon to be on the way to it's rightful owners. I spoke to my son who told me that it had been found in a home purchased by his ex father in law for a rental and his ex wife latched onto it to use the pages for Scrapbooking. Thank goodness we recovered it and it's family significance will now be enjoyed by John and Elizabeth's descendants. Mission Impossible has been accomplished again thanks to you all.
Now, on to my own search for Cottinghams, Tewksburys and Townsends in England. I have a very good history of the family in the US and Canada but nothing in England prior to 1630. Guess I'll have to start a new tread. If this one was any example, I should be off and running shortly. See you on a thread again some time.

[Christine in Herts]

Pre 1630 research is extremely unlikely to be straightforward, but I'm sure the members here will do what they can to help.

Christine

[Sunflower]

The Saga of the Gosling Family Bible has ended one chapter and begun another.
The Bible arrived 27 Sep 2011 - it is a huge book - and considering it's great age (159 years) and many travels (England to Canada and in a number of residences across the country), is in remarkable condition.
The family information contained within has confirmed my research as correct and has led me back to yet another generation of Ancestors! how exciting is that?!
There are a number of things interleaved in the book - one a bookmark which is a handstitched card with blue ribbon attached and the initials EG (Could be Elizabeth or Ellen Gosling). Another item is a funeral card for Richard Thomas, Elizabeth's father. The family (or someone) pressed flowers between the pages - I have found stems - the petals are gone.
Thank you Grandpa T for searching for us and sending this treasure on - it will be preserved and shared.
Thanks to all who helped Grandpa T track us down.

Sunflower

[Darksecretz]

oh Sunflower how lovely!! may I ask if you could take a photograph and show us?