I decided to start this thread as the idea may help other people. In the last two months I have managed to find what happened to two siblings of direct ancestors as a result of discovering their marriages. This sounds obvious but the individuals in question didn't make life easy!!
Emma Jane Duce born Goldthorpe, Rotherham 1842. This lady has always caused problems. She was the first born child of William Strong and Elizabeth Duce and born out of wedlock so she was baptised with her mothers surname. I managed to track her through the 1851, 61 71, and 1881 census returns but then at the age of 39 she disappears. The obvious answer is that she married and there was a marriage that fitted. In 1886 Emma Jane Duce married in Rotherham to either to either Thomas Cobb or Samuel Walker Cooke. The logical progression to establish who Emma married was to see if there was an Emma Jane Duce or an Emma Jane Walker(or and) Cooke. There wasn't. I was not able to find a death for Emma either. So Emma was put on the brick wall pile waiting for time to work on her.
A few weeks ago I was off work with a nasty virus and wasn't able to do much when I was feeling better, but not able to go back to work because I had a sick note, I revisited Emma. The answer was there all the time. On the 1871 and 1881 census she was the house keeper for Thomas Cobb and she was living with him and her children. It was at this point when I considered looking for another marriage and lo and behold Emma Jane Cobb married James Warne 1st quarter of 1891. She shows on the 1891 census with her husband. Further investigations of Emma's children Kate and Frederick showed that they were registered in 1871 and 1874 as Kate Cobb Duce and Frederick Cobb Duce. This would seem to be a fairly good indicator as to the identity of the father!!
Ann Coles born Kilmersdon, Somerset 1801. Possible marriage to John Hobbs 2 June 1824. But I could not find a death or any record of her on the census returns. Again, she went on the brick wall pile for further research. I found out what happened to Ann purely by accident. I was looking at her sister Sarah Coles. She married Thomas Gane in Sep 1824 and having given Thomas four children died(presumably as a result of child birth - the dates fit) in 1833. I am not sure why but I decided to find out who Thomas remarried - I think curiosity got the better of me. Freereg had a marriage of Thomas Gane 24 Jun 1841 Bride Ann Bray widower. However, what was interesting was that Ann's father was James Coles. Further investigation revealed that this was Sarah's sister Ann. Ann married John Hobbs who died in 1827. She then married Giles Bray in 1830. He died in 1835 and then her third marriage was Thomas Gane (her brother-in-law)in 1841. This was further proved by the 1841 census. She is living with her husband to be Thomas, her daughter from her first marriage, Elizabeth Hobbs, Charles Bray, Giles Bray and Emma Bray, (her children from her second marriage) and Edmund and Charles Gane her nephews and the children of Thomas. Ann and Thomas were married for 40 years until the death of Thomas in 1881
I hope this might inspire other people to revisit some of their brick walls!!
Sandra
Emma Jane Duce born Goldthorpe, Rotherham 1842. This lady has always caused problems. She was the first born child of William Strong and Elizabeth Duce and born out of wedlock so she was baptised with her mothers surname. I managed to track her through the 1851, 61 71, and 1881 census returns but then at the age of 39 she disappears. The obvious answer is that she married and there was a marriage that fitted. In 1886 Emma Jane Duce married in Rotherham to either to either Thomas Cobb or Samuel Walker Cooke. The logical progression to establish who Emma married was to see if there was an Emma Jane Duce or an Emma Jane Walker(or and) Cooke. There wasn't. I was not able to find a death for Emma either. So Emma was put on the brick wall pile waiting for time to work on her.
A few weeks ago I was off work with a nasty virus and wasn't able to do much when I was feeling better, but not able to go back to work because I had a sick note, I revisited Emma. The answer was there all the time. On the 1871 and 1881 census she was the house keeper for Thomas Cobb and she was living with him and her children. It was at this point when I considered looking for another marriage and lo and behold Emma Jane Cobb married James Warne 1st quarter of 1891. She shows on the 1891 census with her husband. Further investigations of Emma's children Kate and Frederick showed that they were registered in 1871 and 1874 as Kate Cobb Duce and Frederick Cobb Duce. This would seem to be a fairly good indicator as to the identity of the father!!
Ann Coles born Kilmersdon, Somerset 1801. Possible marriage to John Hobbs 2 June 1824. But I could not find a death or any record of her on the census returns. Again, she went on the brick wall pile for further research. I found out what happened to Ann purely by accident. I was looking at her sister Sarah Coles. She married Thomas Gane in Sep 1824 and having given Thomas four children died(presumably as a result of child birth - the dates fit) in 1833. I am not sure why but I decided to find out who Thomas remarried - I think curiosity got the better of me. Freereg had a marriage of Thomas Gane 24 Jun 1841 Bride Ann Bray widower. However, what was interesting was that Ann's father was James Coles. Further investigation revealed that this was Sarah's sister Ann. Ann married John Hobbs who died in 1827. She then married Giles Bray in 1830. He died in 1835 and then her third marriage was Thomas Gane (her brother-in-law)in 1841. This was further proved by the 1841 census. She is living with her husband to be Thomas, her daughter from her first marriage, Elizabeth Hobbs, Charles Bray, Giles Bray and Emma Bray, (her children from her second marriage) and Edmund and Charles Gane her nephews and the children of Thomas. Ann and Thomas were married for 40 years until the death of Thomas in 1881
I hope this might inspire other people to revisit some of their brick walls!!
Sandra
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