Longs of Gloucester

[Chrissy Confused]

I have been looking at my Longs again, I have John Long b c1806, Berkerley Gloucestershire I have found

1861
John Long 55 down as a Lodger

1851
John Long 45 Ag Lab born Hawesbury Glouc
Eliza Long 40
Isabella Long 77 (mother)

1841
John Long 30
Sarah Long 25
Isabella Long 65

Could these all be the same John ????????

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Hard to say Chrissie. However, the 1861 chap says he was born in Berkeley and in 1851 there is a John Long who also says he was born there but in 1802.

[Chrissy Confused]

Thanks Merry, it looks like he could of been married twice, might look into that tomorrow

[Little Nell]

1841 and 1851 both feature Isabella. Perhaps the Sarah from 1841 was his sister, not his wife?

[Little Nell]

This baptism doesn't give mother's name:

JNO LONG Christening: 03 FEB 1804 Berkeley, Gloucester, England
Parents: Father: JAMES LONG
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information: Batch No.: C016483

[Little Nell]

The batch number also gives christening same date, place and father for a
William Long and for
Elizabeth Long 14 Nov 1802
Daniel Long 23 Oct 1804

though these may not be your chap and his siblings, they are probably related along the line somewhere.

[Little Nell]

Berkeley and Hawkesbury aren't that far apart but I would want some evidence there wasn't another John Long of Hawkesbury just to confirm I had the right chap.

[Chrissy Confused]

Thanks Nell, have made a note of what you have found,going to see if I can find a marriage between James and Isabella, wish me luck :D

[Little Nell]

Good luck - I couldn't see one on familysearch. Might be one listed on Boyd's or Pallot's. Fingers crossed!

[Chrissy Confused]

Having no luck, free bmd is not working for me today, why is it that my dads side is such a pain in the **** :(

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Thanks Merry, it looks like he could of been married twice, might look into that tomorrow

Not quite sure what you mean Chrissie......

I was just meaning that in 1851 there are two different men; one who is the same person you found in 1841 and one who may be the man you found in 1861.

[Chrissy Confused]

Sorry Merry, i was tired last night so take no notice :o, and thanks again for your help

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

This is probably the man you found in 1861 on the 1841 census:


John Long 35 Ag lab Yes <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ann Long 35 Yes
John Long 14 Yes
Henry Long 9 Yes

at Berkeley, Gloucestershire

Or this could be him at the same place

John Long 40 Labourer Yes <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jenita Long 30 Yes
Irine Long 6 Yes
Catharine Long 4 Yes
Jane Long 4 Yes




I'm confused about which record is definitely yours?

[Chrissy Confused]

If you are confused what chance do I have :D


The one I'm looking for is John Long c1806, I just have him born in Berkerly, Gloucester, I have as marrying an Ann Unknown, date unknown. They had at least 2 children

John George c 1827 Westbury On Trym and
Henry c 1832

Looks like its the first one merry

[Jewels]

NAME: John Long BAPTISED: 3 Feb 1805 at Berkeley

FATHER: James
OCCUPATION: Dairyman ABODE: The Heath

[Jewels]

NAME: John Long BURIED: 28 Feb 1835 at Berkeley
AGE: 30 years
ABODE: Berkeley Heath

[Jewels]

NAME: James Long BURIED: 31 Jul 1841 at Berkeley
AGE: 71 years
ABODE: Berkeley Heath

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

So this is his elder son?

Deaths Dec 1893
Long John George aged 67 Barton R. 6a 119

So wouldn't these be the right ones in 1841?

John Long 35 Ag lab Yes
Ann Long 35 Yes
John Long 14 Yes
Henry Long 9 Yes

at Berkeley, Gloucestershire

They are one of the two families I found as potential matches for the 1861 John Long you found.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I presume this is the elder son in 1891 (I expect you have all this already, but I'm just trying to join the two ends!)

John Long 65 b Westbury on Trym
Mary 65 ditto
Edith granddaughter 10 ditto

In 1881 Edith is with her parents, Jesse (21) and Caroline, so presume Jesse is the son of John (1827)?

1871

John 45
Mary 45
Jesse 10
Lucy 7
George 4
Edward 2

John says Westbury on Trym for his place of birth on all the above, but I can't yet see him in 1851 and 1861.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

John George Long's wife, Mary is from Alveston Wilts.

In 1861 the family seem to be called Cook!! They are in the same street as in 1871

John 35
Mary 35 Alveston
Annie 12 Earthcott (or something like that!)
Harriet 9 W-o-T
Mary Ann 7 ditto
Agnes 5 ditto
Ada 3 ditto
Jesse 1 ditto

1861 Cook again.....

John 24
Mary Ann 24 Earthcott
Thomas 5 ditto
Ann 1 ditto

In case they are different people, I have tried to find the Cook people on later censuses, without success.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Doh......

I'm stuck now :(

[Cherry Too]

Hi have yu looked on the following site as they have parish records, trade directories, census details for Berkeley Glos some of the records go back to 1700,s.

Scribe's Alcove (http://www.scribes-alcove.co.uk)

Cherry Too

[Cherry Too]

just spotted Jewels has given you the info from this site.

Cherry Too

[Chrissy Confused]

Hi Merry

My god you have been busy, sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday, have made a note of what you have found, thank you