Well i'm still stuck!!

[vikki brace]

Good Morning all

Some of you may remember my Charles White Basket maker mystery, well it is still a mystery but now I have his fathers details and it makes it all as clear as mud. Can anyone help :confused:

I don't know where else to look

1881 - Charles White b.1842 Southwark, Basket maker RG11; Piece: 522; Folio: 90; Page: 30
1891 - Charles White b.1831 Lambeth, Basket Maker RG12; Piece: 344; Folio 153; Page 37
1901 - Charles White b1842 Homerton, Basket Maker RG13; Piece: 388; Folio: 174; Page: 6

Got his marriage cert 1874

Charles Walter white - Full - Batchelor - Basket Maker - Bethnal Green - George Samuel White - Labourer
Mary Ann Catherine Nuckley - Full - Spinster - Bethnal Green - Thomas Nuckley - Deceased

I know the 4 youngest children belong to Mary Ann Nuckley but the other 4 on 1881 census, don't seem to appear anywhere else.

Can't find charles before 1881 except a possible in 1851 (only reason I think this might be him, is grandfather is Basket maker) HO107; Piece: 1679; Folio: 122; Page: 45

[Jools in Scarborough]

The image for that 1881 ref has Charles as age 29, so born 1852 !!

With supposedly umpteen offspring aged 19 to 2. And don't tell OC but next door are a set of Holdens!!

[vikki brace]

Thanks I hadn't noticed that Jules, Off to see if I can find anything in 1852

This man is so frustrating:(

I don't think the older children are his, but thats another story.

[Jools in Scarborough]

Vikki - enumerators pen right through 1881 & 1891 age of mary isn't helping, but I wonder if she's older than charles & the 4 kids are hers by 1st marriage?

UPDATE - if they married 1874, perhaps their children started with Elizabeth (6 on 1881)

[vikki brace]

Mary Ann is missing from census in 1861 & 1871, so there is a chance they are hers, but on the marriage cert she is listed as spinster, so that would mean the children are illigitamate.
I do know that they were not White's. No birth entries and I cannot find any of the older 4 on any other census with the name White

Elizabeth, Sarah, Sophia and James are the children of Charles and Mary Ann.

Mary Ann was born in 1839 in Bethnal Green (3rd Qtr Vol 2 pg 49).