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Darksecretz
08-12-07, 18:20
how to find

Sarah Hannah Hamsboro Burgess
abt 1859 - St Georges Hanover Square, Middlesex, England

on the 1861 cens?

I keep looking and I guess she is badly mistrans, BUT I have found this birth, and wondered IF it could be her???

Rose Sarah Burgess
Sep 1860 - St George Hanover Square, London, Middlesex

I couldnt see any other Burgess @ St. Geo Han Sq. :confused:

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 19:03
You been doing the garden, Julie??

The brother was registered:

Births Q3 1853
Burgess Ephraim Charles Steedley St Geo H S 1a 209

*looks harder*

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 19:12
LOL... too cold for gardening,

I do have her bro's reg yes, But I cannot find this family in the 1861 cens, I do have them on 51/71/81/91/ and I think I have her in 1901, but for the life of me I cant find her/and family in the 1861, it doesnt help that they move from pillar to post and back again... I have tried Sar** and Han** etc, but nothing seems to throw them up even have used Bur***** as well, but they are determined to stay hidden for a bit longer.... hrrrumph..

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 19:18
Did you actually need the birth cert, or was it info on it you wanted, like who here father was?

I can't find any of them on any other census, nor a marriage for the mum. Only a death for the bro in 1890 (I think it was) and a "maybe" marriage in 1899 for Sarah, which seems awfully late. Can't see a death for mum either.

Sorry, I always go round the houses if I can't find the thing requested!!

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 19:21
I wonder if they were an army family and spent time abroad?

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 19:37
Merry

this is my original post

http://www.familytreeforum.com/research-advice/34983-anyone-got-any-bright-ideas.html

I really want to find the mother... Frances Nex Burgess Nee Middleton.

the 1861 is the only one I cant find her on, Her Husband (well the chap she is living with in 51) was a minister... BUT in later census he becomes an estate agent? but is dead before the 1881 cens

William Burgess (more likely mistrans as burger) born 1816 in darsham? suffolk

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 19:43
hmmm just rechecked the 1891 cens and she has another letter in her name now

she is Sarah H H C Burgess... arrrgh

1891-RG12; Piece: 680; Folio 108; Page 48

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 19:47
Can't see any BMD records for the great nephew either!

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 19:48
hmmm just rechecked the 1891 cens and she has another letter in her name now

she is Sarah H H C Burgess... arrrgh

1891-RG12; Piece: 680; Folio 108; Page 48

lol That's who got married:

Marriages Q4 1899
Adams Minnie Rosinia St. Giles 1b 1119
Burgess Sarah Hannah H C St. Giles 1b 1119
Dunscombe Ernest John St. Giles 1b 1119
Scott Charles Joseph F St. Giles 1b 1119

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 19:51
Can't see any BMD records for the great nephew either!

Yes the gt nephew was reg'd as a Helwig (keep wanting to put Hedwig...pmsl) I think I have found that connection, it is Williams sisters son, I think...lol

I wonder where the extra C came into play? certainly wasnt on the 1881, unless it was forgotten?

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 19:54
Ernest John Dunscombe probably wasn't born until 1873.

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 19:57
pmsl!!

I found a Charles J F Scott born 1870-74 in Leicestershire (Mountsorrel). In 1901 he has moved to St Pancras and is with his wife, Sarah H Scott AGED 31!!!

LOLOL

Sorry, I've just seen it's the mum you are after. In what way? marriage? death? another census??

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 20:01
LOL!! Merry,

census really, this is the only one I dont have her on, (frances nex) I have her marriage in 1852, (just the ref) atmo. but am just wanting to find her and her tribe on the 1861.

She had another daughter as well, but I cannot find her after the 1851 either, I suspect she is williams daughter too but was on the 1851 as the housekeepers daughter (frances) but she seems to marry william the next year 1852 in london.

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 20:07
LOL!! Merry,

census really, this is the only one I dont have her on, (frances nex) I have her marriage in 1852, (just the ref) atmo. but am just wanting to find her and her tribe on the 1861.



*wanders around 1861 census*

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 20:14
I have looked and looked... and then looked some more, tried every combination I can think of, but no, can I find her?

I only found them on the 1871 purely by chance.. as Frances was mistrans as "Thanos"... gawd knows how they got that one!!!

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 20:19
I was just looking in the wiki (lol) at the missing stuff in 1861.........

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 20:22
Yes, I have looked there too, but my knowledge of london isnt very good either..lol,

Unless she has been transcribed any different on another site?

*rubs head*...

Merry Monty Montgomery
08-12-07, 20:59
I did try findmypast without luck.

How come you have more posts than I do??? :(:(:(:D

Darksecretz
08-12-07, 21:03
I did try findmypast without luck.

How come you have more posts than I do???

Er, cos I'm a busy bee.... :D:);)